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Wilky
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 Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:07:43
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Technically - Sy is one of the best. (When he tries) See old albums and sets for further evidence to back up this.
that aint uk hardcore tho is it?
happy hardcore ìsnt the same.
sy is one of the worst, him and hixxy. with hixxy its like he cant mix at all. with sy its like hes in a rush to get to kfc before it closes, plus, most of the tunes he plays have the same intros!
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:09:41
cotts raises a gd point. it isnt really fair 2 judge sum1s mixing by saying its 'sloppy' as i said
we can favour a dj but not put one down or watever. :P
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Craig Switchback
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:13:44
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Originally posted by uncle Google:
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Originally posted by Craig Switchback:
Technically - Sy is one of the best. (When he tries) See old albums and sets for further evidence to back up this.
that aint uk hardcore tho is it?
happy hardcore ìsnt the same.
sy is one of the worst, him and hixxy. with hixxy its like he cant mix at all. with sy its like hes in a rush to get to kfc before it closes, plus, most of the tunes he plays have the same intros!
I love it how you distinguish between Happy Hardcore and UK Hardcore. Well, even when Sy mixes in UK HARDCORE (lol) he is still good. (When he tries)
And of course most of the tunes he plays has similar intros - he plays all Quosh stuff.
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Craig Switchback
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:17:46
And how you can say they are the same is just stupid. Both the same tempos, same music. Just people decided to use the word UK Hardcore when referring to the music. You still get events that has the words "happy hardcore" and it's exactly the same music.
That's like me trying to say there's a difference between Hard Dance and Hard House.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:30:41
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And how you can say they are the same is just stupid. Both the same tempos, same music. Just people decided to use the word UK Hardcore when referring to the music. You still get events that has the words "happy hardcore" and it's exactly the same music.
That's like me trying to say there's a difference between Hard Dance and Hard House.
Actually mate, I wouldn't really call them the same thing either... It's like DnB coming from Hardcore in the 90's.. Was esentially the same music but with a different feel and mood. Happy hardcore doesn't suitably describes the new style. For me (and many others), Happy Hardcore died when the new sound came in.
They would mix pretty much exactly the same though. :-/ Same structure and everything. I guess if anything the newer stuff is even more predictable and easy to mix!
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cotts raises a gd point. it isnt really fair 2 judge sum1s mixing by saying its 'sloppy' as i said
we can favour a dj but not put one down or watever. :P
It's not really a very good point IMO (sorry Cotts ;)). At the end of the day, the question was "who is the best/worst DJ". Of course it's fair to judge their mixing on how tight their mixes are.
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 10:32:03
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
cotts raises a gd point. it isnt really fair 2 judge sum1s mixing by saying its 'sloppy' as i said
we can favour a dj but not put one down or watever. :P
It's not really a very good point IMO (sorry Cotts ;)). At the end of the day, the question was "who is the best/worst DJ". Of course it's fair to judge their mixing on how tight their mixes are.
Very true. :)
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 11:07:35
How people can judge DJs by the quality of album mixes is beyond me. It is (should be?) a well known fact that albums are almost always studio-mixed. If it's studio-mixed and still sloppy it does say something about the "DJ's" abilities or commitment, but doesn't really let you judge his mixing skills.
Of the "top dogs", I'd say Brisk, Gammer, Robbie Long. Solid mixing almost every time.
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 11:56:06
im not judging off studio mixed compilations (if you're a 'top DJ' and cant get one of those right give up now) im goin off live mixes!
also, uk hardcore in my eyes is very different from happy!
its like sayin gabba or speedcore is like happy or uk just because its 'hardcore'
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 12:13:42
sy is good at scratching
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 12:14:16
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im not judging off studio mixed compilations (if you're a 'top DJ' and cant get one of those right give up now) im goin off live mixes!
I'm not saying YOU are, but such opinions have been expressed in this thread so I'm relating to them.
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also, uk hardcore in my eyes is very different from happy!
its like sayin gabba or speedcore is like happy or uk just because its 'hardcore'
Agreed, happy hardcore and UK hardcore are pretty much distinct. "UK hardcore" is a rather unfortunate name tbh, but it seems like we'll have to live with it. ;)
While on topic, big ups to HHC.com live show DJs! Several years of tuning in and I've yet to hear a set that I'd consider "sloppy". Cotts, Silver, Myers, Scott Devotion, Bluecore, Lord, Virus (and others) - it's always been a big pleasure listening to you guys. Of course it's easier to mix at home or studio (compared to clubs with often dodgy monitoring, shit signal processing, faulty hardware etc.), but still - big ups for consistency. :)
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 12:58:53
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Originally posted by uncle Google:
im not judging off studio mixed compilations (if you're a 'top DJ' and cant get one of those right give up now) im goin off live mixes!
I'm not saying YOU are, but such opinions have been expressed in this thread so I'm relating to them.
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also, uk hardcore in my eyes is very different from happy!
its like sayin gabba or speedcore is like happy or uk just because its 'hardcore'
Agreed, happy hardcore and UK hardcore are pretty much distinct. "UK hardcore" is a rather unfortunate name tbh, but it seems like we'll have to live with it. ;)
While on topic, big ups to HHC.com live show DJs! Several years of tuning in and I've yet to hear a set that I'd consider "sloppy". Cotts, Silver, Myers, Scott Devotion, Bluecore, Lord, Virus (and others) - it's always been a big pleasure listening to you guys. Of course it's easier to mix at home or studio (compared to clubs with often dodgy monitoring, shit signal processing, faulty hardware etc.), but still - big ups for consistency. :)
totally agreed mate. all the mixes have been spot on. i love the live shows. DJ Lord played a blinder last night!
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 15:08:04
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Sharkey..
hes brilliant
any one seen his vicky pollard impression where he slags of scott brown? its funny
The I Like Brisk And Ham - their into to Hardcore Euphoria is legendary :L
"Let's get some HamHamHam"
Brisk is a really great dj and had some pretty awesome tracks as well. Ham is an amazing producer, but i have no knowledge of his djing. But I don't think together they are that good. They did a decent job on Euphoria Hardcore but i was somewhat dissatisfied with the Bonkers 17 mix.
Brisk did amazing work, especially on the happy hardcore foundation series.
What makes Sy is his scratching. i've never heard him dj live, only on cds but he did some great work on the Euphoria Hardcore Cds.
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 15:11:59
I agree he is good. But i also think hixxy is good too, He played some set at fantiazia in the HTID tent at showtime. Im sure he has his moments like every dj .
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 15:12:17
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And how you can say they are the same is just stupid. Both the same tempos, same music. Just people decided to use the word UK Hardcore when referring to the music. You still get events that has the words "happy hardcore" and it's exactly the same music.
That's like me trying to say there's a difference between Hard Dance and Hard House.
I definitely wouldn't call hard house and hard dance the same anymore. what people call hard dance is what we used to call progressive trance in the early decade. Hard house to me is best described by djs such as Venom and dj Irene's earlier work. but it could just be differences among both of our countries.
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Posted - 2008/05/08 : 18:20:25
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I have to say about some of Scott Browns stuff just has lazy mixing in it. I mean Hardcore Heaven 4 the Scott Brown and Gammer cd is just put together totally terribly. Its really really lazy and I just got the idea from listening to it that they couldnt be stuffed.
On the other hand the Joey Riot cd was done quite well I thought.
Its hard to say overall who does what as there are so many mixes (official and unoffical) that are thrown around the place. Its a really general question...
Also one thing I don't like is when people say, this person is better than this person...
One last thing you guys all need to remember, most of the people that are named off arent really DJ's. They are producers that do mixes, If Joey Riots or Kurts mix is bad as was mentioned earlier, just stop and think about the content of those mixes. They are generally all their tracks and most of it is brilliant stuff. Its really important to have a good mix yes but the big guys at the end of the day are more concerned about production as the majority of people dont notice when a mix goes wrong at a club or whatever, it just has to be good enough.
Hope this is all taken the right way!.
Gammer didnt mix on Hardcore Heaven 4!!!
I still call it Happy Hardcore music. It's the same producers, same format, the only thing different is the breaks have been replaced with more trancier elements. You can listen to old 1996/1997 stuff and it be trancey as well. What we have today is the fully evolved form that started to take place in 1997, now we just got to wait for something else to come along in the music. I just think today's generation feels embarrassed to have their music labled "Happy" Hardcore, so they just simply slap the "UK" label on it....its always been from Europe, mainly the UK, so I dont get the point of the "UK" label. A lot of the tracks are just as cheesy, vocally, and bouncey as the older sound was, I just miss my chipmunks.
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