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Bonkers mixing - skillful or just a racket?

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acidfluxxbass
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I was listening to some bonkers earlier. it had always annoyed me how someof the mixing was so bad it was simply a racket in my ears.. ive noticed it most in bonkers 17 and 16.. do people like it? for example, on bonkers 17 mixing in futureshock is shocking.. and mixing into one with the beat by marc smith...
does anyone agree?


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Posted - 2008/06/14 :  02:14:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dain-Ja's homepage
umm
...no?

the mixing is pretty spot on throughout, other than Kevin Energy's weird cuts


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Posted - 2008/06/14 :  02:47:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage
My favorite transition is between "Moonlight Party" & "Hold You In My Arms". I thought the vocal loop, "I wanna feel you, and hold you in my arms" matched well with the melody from Moonlight Party.



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The old Bonkers had some very dodgey moments, like when Dougal fades out one track in his Bonkers 4 mix (The Project- Sweetest thing) into the next track! Whats that all about lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
The old Bonkers had some very dodgey moments



Bonkers 1 is just a shambles, but the tunes are brilliant so i don't care :P


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well you cant expect a dj not to make mistakes :) i heared plenty of top dj's making mistakes on live sets. depends how you listen to it ;) if you are working with music a lot.. producing... mixing.. you will hear these kinda things way faster then ppl who just listen it =] but a well thats my opinion on it :) as for bonkers... a well aslong the tunes are good it doesnt really bother me if i hear a lil mistake.. if i do hear it proofs me that those guys are still just humans ;)

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quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
The old Bonkers had some very dodgey moments, like when Dougal fades out one track in his Bonkers 4 mix (The Project- Sweetest thing) into the next track! Whats that all about lol



Dougal also does that on his "DJ Dougal: Takes Control" mix (not with the same song, but the same fade/cut off thing). What about on Bonkers 6, Vibe's mix. Is it just me, or does it sound like a trainwreck between "This Is The Night" & "Clearly Now"?



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quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What about on Bonkers 6, Vibe's mix. Is it just me, or does it sound like a trainwreck between "This Is The Night" & "Clearly Now"?





Most of Vibes' mix's are train wrecks. He's a poor DJ.

Depends what Bonkers you're talinig about really, the early one's where done on vinyl and the new ones on computer. The new one's a pretty much flawless and the old one's have alot of bad transitions.


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quote:
Originally posted by dj bugbear:
well you cant expect a dj not to make mistakes :) i heared plenty of top dj's making mistakes on live sets. depends how you listen to it ;) if you are working with music a lot.. producing... mixing.. you will hear these kinda things way faster then ppl who just listen it =] but a well thats my opinion on it :) as for bonkers... a well aslong the tunes are good it doesnt really bother me if i hear a lil mistake.. if i do hear it proofs me that those guys are still just humans ;)



The thing is I would ra6ther hear a mix with loads of classics & alot of veriety & a few tracks I wouldn't have heard before or tracks that don't often make it into the sets than a mix that is mixed really smoothly with no falts or flaws & is really repetetive and boring with loads of stale tracks that lack any 'chill down your spine' moments.; Im trying to make my own mixes as veried as possible & I make mistakes & have a number of dodgey moments but enjoy it & I would appreciate a mix where the DJ tried their hardest to put some great tracks in rather than have something that could be made on a computer program!

Happy 2 B Hardcore 1 always had its criticism over the way it was mixed but people loved it for it!


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i don,t have a problem with any of the mixing in bonkers,its all wicked 2 me

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The newer bonkers mixes are almost flawless technically
...the very old ones (Bonkers 1, 2, 4, etc.) have mistakes

After all, Hixxy was never that good technically... :P


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quote:
Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
The newer bonkers mixes are almost flawless technically
...the very old ones (Bonkers 1, 2, 4, etc.) have mistakes

After all, Hixxy was never that good technically... :P



Bonkers 1 - It shows.


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quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What about on Bonkers 6, Vibe's mix. Is it just me, or does it sound like a trainwreck between "This Is The Night" & "Clearly Now"?



Actually I went and just listened to it, and it's far from a trainwreck. Vibes didn't do the smoothest EQ adjustments maybe, but the beatmatching is tight enough, especially for those old Bonkers. The mixing on these compilation albums really wasn't always so clean like it is today.



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