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2009 where do see the hardcore?

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djepi
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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  09:28:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djepi's homepage  Reply with quote
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Very much doubt that. Luna-C as far as im aware as already left hardcore for the time being, but i don't know if he'll be coming back.


Nope, hes still releasing.


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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  10:34:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by djepi:
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Very much doubt that. Luna-C as far as im aware as already left hardcore for the time being, but i don't know if he'll be coming back.


Nope, hes still releasing.




Hardcore? Is he?
He wrote on here (few months back i think) that he was taking a break but didn't know if he'd be making hardcore again. Can't remember exactly but i'm sure it were something along those lines.


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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  11:36:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ-Intensity's homepage  Reply with quote
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  13:06:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Project-Industrial's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by FingazMc:
quote:
Originally posted by The Doc:
I couldn't give a f**k what sounds are used for hardcore! if the track is good its good! if its shite then its shite! its that simple!



100% agree with that, i almost found myself trying not to like newer hardcore because of the current state of "The scene" and iv always tried to class my self as Old Skool. But at the end of the day if a tunes good im going to listen to it regardless of genre or artist....Just is a shame that there is so many dick heads in the scene right now.



same here m8.. had a lot of discussion with ppl bout for example darren styles going commercial nd so which i still think ruins the scene but thats out of the point. take the track flashlight.. i fokin love it even tho thats one of em tracks that went commercial. yet i prefer not to go to mass raves that are full of commercial stuff couse i like my dutch hardcore/gabber. take parties as thunderdome and mindcontroller. love them couse its where it started basicly. gives me the real feeling of hardcore beeing there with all the gabbers stompin it out. everyone is nice to eachother and its one big happy family. unlike some of the current commercial raves where everyone ignores ya when you start a random chat with ppl. its like beein on your own listening to music.. cud just aswell stay home nd put a cd on its much cheaper :)


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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  15:05:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Torpex's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Meathead:
Hardcore? Is he?
He wrote on here (few months back i think) that he was taking a break but didn't know if he'd be making hardcore again. Can't remember exactly but i'm sure it were something along those lines.


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Meathead
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Posted - 2008/07/07 :  15:27:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Torpex:
quote:
Originally posted by Meathead:
Hardcore? Is he?
He wrote on here (few months back i think) that he was taking a break but didn't know if he'd be making hardcore again. Can't remember exactly but i'm sure it were something along those lines.


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Ahh, well this changes things


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ravekutz
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Posted - 2008/07/08 :  13:22:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ravekutz's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by von-X:
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Originally posted by ravekutz:
I think Electro is going to have more and more influence in hardcore as time goes by... Is already happening now. Which is a good thing...




Are you completely crazy??! That's the worst thing that can happen to hardcore!
Yeah! Let's make hardcore become electro! Fantastic! What a ****in stupid idea...



No you missed the point... Hardcore is'nt becoming Electro... It's using production techniques from Electro... Trance strings are becoming pretty dated so this is just some of the evolution that's happening to hardcore. Weather you like it or not it's happening... When trance crept into hardcore in the late 90's everyone hated it but gradually peopple started to like it. Same thing is happening now with the electro and house influences in hardcore...


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ravekutz
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Posted - 2008/07/08 :  13:34:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ravekutz's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by von-X:
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Originally posted by Meph751:
quote:
Originally posted by von-X:
quote:
Originally posted by ravekutz:
I think Electro is going to have more and more influence in hardcore as time goes by... Is already happening now. Which is a good thing...




Are you completely crazy??! That's the worst thing that can happen to hardcore!
Yeah! Let's make hardcore become electro! Fantastic! What a ****in stupid idea...



He means there's more electro sounds that are being used in hardcore tracks... there's a bunch of recent al storm tracks, and at least 1 kurt track that makes use of sounds. trance leads get boring... new sounds are required.




But why is it necessary to bring sounds from other styles? Hardcore should have its own unique sound.

Hardcore does'nt have it's unique sound fool! It's steals nearly all it's influences from trance and Energy... You have no idea what your talking about, your from Hungry so I can't imagine you having much idea about hardcore when no well known hardcore producers are from there.
You watch in the next few years how hardcore takes influence from other thriving dance scenes. Like the Electro House scene....







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latininxtc
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Posted - 2008/07/08 :  17:44:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
hopefully in the graveyard.

or will it be just another year where Sy is 1 year older and is STILL milking out meaningless bore-core make the scene even more stale than it allready is.

2009, the year where it wouldn't matter if the DJ hit stop on the turntable, the MC would blabber away a typical chavs life (wotsee; "bottle or rush" style) stories out of time because that's all 14 year olds "ravaz" want to hear these days.. the MC.



hardcore is ever-changing, and there's no stopping it. that's why it's gone from the cheezy chappy squirrel vocals of the past to what it is today! there is always gonna be that DJ that will introduce something new 2 the hardcore style, and most DJs will follow suit, either copying it in some way or improving upon it. it's what music does, nothing stays the same!

and yea plz 95 was the time...PLZ LEAVE THESE FORUMS!!!!! r u still on here in hopes that 1 day we will go backwards in time and begin 2 make cheezy hardcore again??? u r delusional and don't waste ur time writing in the forums if u don't like the scene anymore. actually that last statement can go 2 anyone!

i like the scene that's going on now, and by scene i just mean the music! unfortunately here in the states we don't have much of an actual hardcore culture, unless it's the hardcore of alternative music b/c that's what ppl here in the states thinks is hardcore. yea there is some good and some bad out there, but the scene will never 100% satisfy everyone!


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Luna-C
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Posted - 2008/07/10 :  22:41:18  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Luna-C's homepage  Reply with quote
I am not leaving the scene - just moving from the UK to the USA. I havent had a studio since Oct 07, but I got my new one up and running a week ago and am working on Supaset 8. I am also working on the website, with hopes to have every every track on every label I own the rights to made avaiable to download for free by Christmas. I want to get to a point where I can release new tunes every month as digital downloads. I have plans etc etc

As for the topic? I think the music "industry" will sink even lower in '09 and thats a good thing. The sooner it crashes out, the quicker it can be rebuilt. Hopefully a lot of those who are only there for money will **** off, and the space left behind will allow new talent to come through and flourish. The hippy in me will be happy if the music is free, and I have no doubt that certain talented individuals will finally come thru based on downloadable tunes and mixes alone. Also, a recession is coming in both the UK and the USA, and recessions are always good for music - Woodstock? The birth of raving? Just a theory i have. Probably not correct lol.

As for 95 is the time, hes abrasive, but he does have a point every now and again. Its always good to have forthright and opinionated people on a board, even if you dont agree. Friction keeps you sharp and all that. If we all agreed all the time, it would get real boring real quick, ha ha!


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bLOODY_dAN
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Posted - 2008/07/10 :  23:36:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bLOODY_dAN's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by ravekutz:
quote:
Originally posted by von-X:
quote:
Originally posted by Meph751:
quote:
Originally posted by von-X:
quote:
Originally posted by ravekutz:
I think Electro is going to have more and more influence in hardcore as time goes by... Is already happening now. Which is a good thing...




Are you completely crazy??! That's the worst thing that can happen to hardcore!
Yeah! Let's make hardcore become electro! Fantastic! What a ****in stupid idea...



He means there's more electro sounds that are being used in hardcore tracks... there's a bunch of recent al storm tracks, and at least 1 kurt track that makes use of sounds. trance leads get boring... new sounds are required.




But why is it necessary to bring sounds from other styles? Hardcore should have its own unique sound.

Hardcore does'nt have it's unique sound fool! It's steals nearly all it's influences from trance and Energy... You have no idea what your talking about, your from Hungry so I can't imagine you having much idea about hardcore when no well known hardcore producers are from there.
You watch in the next few years how hardcore takes influence from other thriving dance scenes. Like the Electro House scene....









I like how you quoted everyone but said nothing. very interesting insight.

But whoever said "trance riffs" is hardcore is outdated....could not have agreed more. Why make the same shit over and over again? Bringing new elements into the music doesnt ruin it. just changes it.

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Posted - 2008/07/10 :  23:53:14  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
Trance, speed and a thunderous kick is what its all about. Long live the trancycore, ****in love it!

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bLOODY_dAN
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Posted - 2008/07/10 :  23:57:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit bLOODY_dAN's homepage  Reply with quote
LIVE IN THE NOW!!!

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Posted - 2008/07/11 :  01:01:37  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by MC SARS:

LIVE IN THE NOW!!!




NOW....?

....bugger, I just missed it.

Hang on, here comes another one.

....nope. That's flown past as well.... they don't hang about for long do they? It's probably that evolution malarky.



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Posted - 2008/07/11 :  01:53:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meathead's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
quote:
Originally posted by MC SARS:

LIVE IN THE NOW!!!




NOW....?

....bugger, I just missed it.

Hang on, here comes another one.

....nope. That's flown past as well.... they don't hang about for long do they? It's probably that evolution malarky.





You've got to be quick with them nows. Also, i find a large fishing net helps provided the holes are small enough so that the now cannot escape.


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