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Samination
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Posted - 2008/12/09 :  22:22:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
and Silk Cuts was DJ Fade's project

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Jackol
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Posted - 2008/12/10 :  04:02:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Jackol's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by ravekutz:
quote:
Originally posted by Jackol:
Bootlegs are also a good way to push new tracks without having people automatically associate a style with the artist.
For instance, many people hate Darren Styles' music, but if he were to do a track as Anon, no one would know and they might be more open to the track.
It breaks up fanboyism and artist boycotts, allowing the listener to rate the track mostly based upon quality.



Dude I don't know where you got that from. It's got nothing to do with boycotting an artist lol. Producers simply go under a different name if they don't want to be known for a tune.

It's totally to do with illegal riffs and samples not copyrighted. You can get taken to the cleaners if your caught ripping off other artists material illegally. Sy and Unknown have been doing it for years. They had a label out called Cheddar in the 90's which had no song titles or producer names. All the tunes were ripp offs but remixed very well.. And all it said on the Vinyl was Cheddar. So it's very hard to ever track them down.

Ripped to **** is probably their new label for illegal remixes. There have been quite a few of these ripp off labels over the years like VG tips, Knickers etc...

Also I don't think everyone hates Darren Styles, it's more of a case of tall poppy syndrome. Where people like to cut down others that are doing well. Styles has been producing hardcore for over 12 years so he deserves some respect don't you think? Yes a lot of his work is commercial sounding. But at the the end of the day he's stayed loyal to hardcore. And not sold out to hard dance or trance etc.... And he still pumps out some darker tunes every now and then.



i didnt say that was the only aspect of anonymous records.
i also did not say that i hate darren styles. i like a lot of his tracks. many people do however.


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ravekutz
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Posted - 2008/12/10 :  11:10:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ravekutz's homepage  Reply with quote


You do know that the original meaning of Bootleg is recorded liveshows (rock n stuff) right?
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Yes I know that. It's basically an illegal recording...




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Tha Kid Vicious
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Posted - 2008/12/11 :  09:27:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Tha Kid Vicious's homepage  Reply with quote
Sorry, mate... Gotta disagree w/ most of your response to my post - For several reasons:
1) Scott Attrill was my primary introduction into HHC back in '97, and as a result I've followed his work very closely;

2) Scott PERSONALLY signed & took credit for most of my "Question Mark", & "Who Done It" rec's;

3) I heard VG & Tix play these choons out more than ANYBODY else;

4) Check your links, m8 - Most of 'em don't work, and tha others don't even list names of producers for tha most part.

Sorry, mate, but you're not 100% on this - TRUST ME... No offense intended, though.




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quote:
Originally posted by raindancerob:
links which confirm this:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Jimmy+J+Recordings

http://www.discogs.com/label/Who+Done+It%3F

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ravers+Choice

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Question+Mark+(2)

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Cheddar

http://www.discogs.com/label/Ripped+2+Fcuk

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Juicy+Cuts

http://www.discogs.com/artist/D.H.S.S.

http://www.discogs.com/label/Mashed+Up+(USA)

http://www.discogs.com/artist/VGT



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raindancerob
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Posted - 2008/12/11 :  11:33:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
i beg to differ mate.



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Starstruck
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Posted - 2008/12/11 :  11:48:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Starstruck's homepage  Reply with quote
Well i guess Scott could of done some of the Who Done It's...

I always originally thought some were by Sy & Unknown, one by Vinylgroover...? And uhm... Hmm, im not really sure... Anyone else clarify that Scott was involved with the Who Done It's?


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raindancerob
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Posted - 2008/12/11 :  12:23:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
one was Mixmatt & MC Ruff under the name DJ Crashmatt & MC Gruff & another was by Nicky Modlin Vs Stuart. its always been kept very secret as to who did the others.



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Edited by - raindancerob on 2008/12/11 12:24:30
raindancerob
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Posted - 2008/12/11 :  13:14:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit raindancerob's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Kid Vicious:
Sorry, mate... Gotta disagree w/ most of your response to my post - For several reasons:
1) Scott Attrill was my primary introduction into HHC back in '97, and as a result I've followed his work very closely;

2) Scott PERSONALLY signed & took credit for most of my "Question Mark", & "Who Done It" rec's;

3) I heard VG & Tix play these choons out more than ANYBODY else;

4) Check your links, m8 - Most of 'em don't work, and tha others don't even list names of producers for tha most part.

Sorry, mate, but you're not 100% on this - TRUST ME... No offense intended, though.




Cheers! :)
T-K-V
***Always remember tha reason for tha season - Merry CHRISTmas!!!***




quote:
Originally posted by raindancerob:
links which confirm this:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Jimmy+J+Recordings

http://www.discogs.com/label/Who+Done+It%3F

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ravers+Choice

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Question+Mark+(2)

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Cheddar

http://www.discogs.com/label/Ripped+2+Fcuk

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Juicy+Cuts

http://www.discogs.com/artist/D.H.S.S.

http://www.discogs.com/label/Mashed+Up+(USA)

http://www.discogs.com/artist/VGT



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also Question mark was DJ Mike Red Alert & Mike Slammer not Vinylgroover.


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