Analog Dreams Junior Member
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 05:26:21
I really like this sound, I think it's very refreshing, and oldschool! There are a few breakbeat records I wouldn't mind grabbing on hhc.com's very own shop. I like 4 beat hardcore to death, but I do get tired of the beat after a while, and this is a breath of fresh air! I was searching for hardcores uplifting sound in dnb for a while and I couldn't find quite what I was looking for, but this is the perfect genre for me to get into I think...
Alert moderatorEdited by - Analog Dreams on 2009/01/21 05:28:19
TypeR Advanced Member
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 05:49:32
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
DnB is not the same as breakbeat, though....
do you think before you speak?
drum and bass was practically created using the "amen" break.
that is a breakbeat.
dnb is based on broken beat!
if it isn't based on breakbeat, you feel free to tell me how you make it sound like that.
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 06:07:55
no, what he said is that dnb is not breakbeat. i'm a big kid and can read. he then went on to explain how it wasn't breakbeat.
i explained how it was.
then i posted a video explaining it.
that same video also explains why every single happy hardcore and early breakbeat song from like 92 until 98 had that same breakbeat.
breakbeat hardcore even uses that very same breakbeat at times.
how someone can say that breakbeat hardcore has breakbeats but drum and bass doesn't blows me away, being that you can't have one without the other lol
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Analog Dreams Junior Member
Belarus
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 06:12:57
Ok, no one is daft enough to think that dnb is not break beat. What he said was dnb is not the same as breakbeat (hardcore), as i asked before his post what the difference was. He then went on to explain the difference...
If you'll read it again he says dnb is not the SAME as breakbeat...not dnb is not breakbeat...
Alert moderatorEdited by - Analog Dreams on 2009/01/21 06:14:35
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 06:34:15
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
DnB focuses on the bass line with some breakbeat beats, quite often devoid of any leads. Is driven by the bassline.
Breakbeats is quite similar, but usually has a richer sound (with more melodies and the bass isn't in center).
now you read it again.
some breakbeat beats?
how about all breakbeat beats.
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Alert moderatorEdited by - Quicksilver on 2009/01/21 13:42:03
lozowen Advanced Member
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 12:49:52
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Just something, speaking of Cube::Hard, what the hell does Micro N2 mean?
that song is ****in pure
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Meathead Advanced Member
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 12:56:52
quote:Originally posted by Analog Dreams:
Is there anyone out their producing some good breakbeat hardcore? I like that sound from like old slipmatt sets...is that sound dead?
If you like the Old Skool sound, but are looking for modern stuff in that style id say youre after Hardcore Breaks/Rave Breaks whatever. If so check out this site http://nu-rave.com/ Great site for that sort of stuff.
If you want regular hardcore (170+)but in a breakbeat style-e, which by having a proper look at the replies im guessing you are, some of the most prominent Breaks producers are Reese, CLSM, Cube::Hard, Darwin and the most obvious Luna-C (check out the kniteforce site like has been said).
quote:Originally posted by TypeR:
do you think before you speak?
drum and bass was practically created using the "amen" break.
that is a breakbeat.
dnb is based on broken beat!
if it isn't based on breakbeat, you feel free to tell me how you make it sound like that.
You seem to be becoming more and more of a twat lately
Im pretty sure Quicksilver was saying D&B is not the same as Breakbeat Hardcore (which it isnt obviously), not that it has no breakbeats. He just worded the descriptions a little wrong. Maybe he should, as you say, "educate himself before he gives musical advice again" IF he genuinely believes there are no breakbeats in D&B (which he doesnt). But if he did why dont you educate him instead of criticising?
Btw Quicksilver...
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver: Pendulum!
Definitely not Breakbeat Hardcore my friend, not even D&B any more, more Drum & Rock.
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Fluffbomb Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 13:27:46
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
If you like the Old Skool sound, but are looking for modern stuff in that style id say youre after Hardcore Breaks/Rave Breaks whatever. If so check out this site http://nu-rave.com/ Great site for that sort of stuff.
Good shout but just because it uses a breakbeat style beat doesn't mean its retro!
A breakbeat is just a sampled drum loop used in place of a programmed drum pattern rather than a genre as breakbeats are used across multiple genres. Most genres that started with the use of breakbeats (Breaks, D&B, Hardcore, etc) have moved away from them to more programmed beats but sometimes keeping a breakbeat layer to give the rhythm a more flowing pattern. I find it ironic that Breaks as a genre whose name is derived from the use of breakbeats now contains very little.
Meathead Advanced Member
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Posted - 2009/01/21 : 14:33:55
quote:Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Pendulum has lots of DnB stuff, mate. :)
Used to. They're now to D&B, what Raverbaby is to Hardcore (All kinds of Hardcore not just UK). They dont even scrape the surface of what real D&B is.
quote:Originally posted by Fluffbomb:
Good shout but just because it uses a breakbeat style beat doesn't mean its retro!
Think weve had this discussion out before
I know its not retro,(i didnt really put much into the description i gave lol) but it does have a lot of the characteristics i suppose of Old Skool / Happy Hardcore but with modern ones aswell. I know its not just re-hashes of Old Skool tracks.
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