Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/04/03 : 19:22:25
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
quote:Originally posted by Meathead:
quote:Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
quote:Originally posted by redwingz:
You can gain alot more respect by playing other peoples tracks than you can by playing your own.
As an artist, I must say I totally disagree with you.
A long time ago, I heard a set by Force & Styles(united dance Volume.6, to be exact) where they only played tracks of their own. It was one of the most amazing and original things I'd ever heard. even DJ Force said it was these tracks in this mix that exploded Force & Styles into the forefront of the scene.
If you as a producer make original tracks, tracks that dont all sound the same, then yeah you can do this and it will sound good. However, if you produce like Styles, Hixxy, SQUAD-E (especially - hence caps) then youre sets will be the most boring, pointless hour or so compilation of music to grace the publics ears and thats ok as long as they aint mine.... which they wont be.
Not true, some of big producers do mixes sometimes to promote their new tunes, and their set sound always good. Just give a look at the last Sparky's mix. Or one of Reese's mixes.
Read the post properly mate. IF they are good producers making good AND, most importantly, original tracks, they can do it and it will sound good. An hour of nothing but Darwin tracks for instance i could listen to and knock at least 4 wanks, easy, but have you ever tried listening to an hour of nowt but Squad-E?
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Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2009/04/03 : 20:25:23
Hmm actually no, but what would you think of an hour of S3RL ? Wouldn't be that bad I think.
And sorry but Reese does not make sooo original tracks, I mean I love them, even if they all sound quite alike ( talking about Breakbeat Hardcore now ), but his Fall 2K8 Studio Mix absolutely rocks.
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/04/03 : 20:35:06
quote:Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Hmm actually no, but what would you think of an hour of S3RL ? Wouldn't be that bad I think.
And sorry but Reese does not make sooo original tracks, I mean I love them, even if they all sound quite alike ( talking about Breakbeat Hardcore now ), but his Fall 2K8 Studio Mix absolutely rocks.
If he makes tracks that arent the same old, repetitive shite then tis all good. I never said it cant be done as long as the tracks arent all as a similair as the RBC. Reese does make original tracks if you ask me, his fall 2k8 mix was awesome, S3RL too (although im not too keen on his stuff) so i could endure a full hour of them no probs. Thats what im getting at, a full mix of your own tracks can be done, but if they are all so similair that its nigh on impossible to tell one track from another (like Styles, Hixxy, Squad-E not Reese, S3RL, Darwin) then it will sound like shit.
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Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,640 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2009/04/04 : 08:49:55
just the hardcore scene in general - they made it around about the same time as jakazid released his "cilit Bang" remix...
latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2009/04/06 : 07:23:27
o yea cillit bang! i knew he was poking fun at this track, but come on. cillit bang was funny, and CLSM had plenty of ppl to pik on about commercialization of the scene, but i think he picked on Jakazid because he didn't feel there would be any retaliation to it
whispering Moderator
Finland
8,455 posts Joined: Nov, 2002
Posted - 2009/04/06 : 07:25:53
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
o yea cillit bang! i knew he was poking fun at this track, but come on. cillit bang was funny, and CLSM had plenty of ppl to pik on about commercialization of the scene, but i think he picked on Jakazid because he didn't feel there would be any retaliation to it
It was funny, but then Nukleuz released like an 8 remix record of it and tryed to milk it as much as possible.
Jimmygoat Average Member
Bahamas
225 posts Joined: Apr, 2003
Posted - 2009/04/08 : 14:26:47
quote:Originally posted by whispering:
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
o yea cillit bang! i knew he was poking fun at this track, but come on. cillit bang was funny, and CLSM had plenty of ppl to pik on about commercialization of the scene, but i think he picked on Jakazid because he didn't feel there would be any retaliation to it
It was funny, but then Nukleuz released like an 8 remix record of it and tryed to milk it as much as possible.
Nukleuz had started releasing stuff like the james bond theme, superman etc. Cillit Bang was a funny video of an advert, Nukleuz jumped on it to try and make a number one single. I emailed Jakazid when it was posted to make my intentions clear that it was not picking on him but by the greedy actions of Nukleuz.
Now read your post back and think who we were really taking on and all the possibilities for retaliation- we took on Nukleuz and will never be featured on any of their albums...
Cd packs are wrong, so 'I' (as being the Dj/ main beneficiary of money from live work in CLSM) decided that I couldnt charge Ministry of Sound (etc.) hundreds of pounds per license while at the same time giving away tracks to Slammin Vinyl for free (plus about 4 other reasons which are all worth not doing it for and equally valid). This has meant that Slammin Vinyl/ Hardcore Heaven wont book me as they want a cd release at the same time and asked Hixxy if 'he still booked me', since which point HTID, Raver Baby, Uproar have not booked me either.
You choose your own route in life, I am happy within myself about these decisions and knew what they meant when I took them. I am 31 now, old enough to retire from dance music and maybe do something else. I dont want to be part of the Djs that menat aspiring up and comers would look forward to playing their own tracks and giving them away to the promotors for a bit of fame. We often see things about bullies on TV or women beaten by their husbands and you think, 'Why didnt you just leave', the answer being security for them....
Djing and making music is partly about the feedback from making music, these guys on the big flyers crave the screaming fans and adulation (which is fun) but in recent times have become like the battered wives club who cant leave for fear of their careers. They have all made a difficult choice which has consequences and a whole heap of them hate cd packs but have to agree to it for a continued career in Djing. Has anybody seen Scott Brown?
Dont worry about politics, just do your thing, release your records. Its that easy. (plug web store here)
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CDJay Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,049 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2009/04/08 : 14:42:45
"but if they are all so similair that its nigh on impossible to tell one track from another (like Styles, Hixxy, Squad-E not Reese, S3RL, Darwin) then it will sound like shit."
LoL, how have you manage to group Darwin in with Squad-E. Darwin tracks might have a recognisable sonic signature, but they're often miles apart in terms of style, influences and sounds. He's on of the few modern producers who *can* pull off a mix entirely with his own productions without me slipping into a coma.
Why take my word for it though; he did a producer showcase set in Scotland last year that you can grab here:
Meathead Advanced Member
United Kingdom
4,217 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2009/04/08 : 15:03:22
quote:Originally posted by CDJay:
"but if they are all so similair that its nigh on impossible to tell one track from another (like Styles, Hixxy, Squad-E not Reese, S3RL, Darwin) then it will sound like shit."
LoL, how have you manage to group Darwin in with Squad-E. Darwin tracks might have a recognisable sonic signature, but they're often miles apart in terms of style, influences and sounds. He's on of the few modern producers who *can* pull off a mix entirely with his own productions without me slipping into a coma.
Why take my word for it though; he did a producer showcase set in Scotland last year that you can grab here:
"but if they are all so similair that its nigh on impossible to tell one track from another (like Styles, Hixxy, Squad-E NOT Reese, S3RL, Darwin) then it will sound like shit."
I know youre probably still a little tired from all the effort of HU3 but no-one could group the likes of Squad-E with Darwin, theyre not even in the same building never mind the same level.
But cheers for the mix. I shall listen as soon as ive stopped listening to Hardcore Underground 3 (and as a side-effect of said CD) grinning like a chesire cat being sexual aroused!
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