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Audio Warfare
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 Posted - 2009/04/21 : 09:14:16
TBH I think things get less hard if they go too fast. Things can lose power and impact at faster speeds.
It's things like Hard Techno and some of the more Industrial Hardcore stuff that take the spot.
Things like Nu-Style Gabber and Hardstyle can be pretty cheesy in the riff dept. at times tbh. Massive distortion doesn't always = hard either.
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What about Psytrance? Like the Full-Power and Dark styles? The bass can be pretty hard-hitting.
Nah, psy isn't that hard really. It is ****ing awesome though. 8-)
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 09:28:26
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
What about Psytrance? Like the Full-Power and Dark styles? The bass can be pretty hard-hitting.
i lisen to LOADS of psy..
Nah... full on? NO WAY..
some dark is very crazy tho... theres 180bpm + stuff with screechy harsh noises almost too harsh on the ear.. south african psy used to be incredibly harsh on the ear but its not as much anymore
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 10:39:06
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Sorry but it sounded like you were trying to explain us that when music is played faster, that it's faster. WTF !
That is what i was saying. My point being, for the 3rd or so time; faster doesnt = harder, just faster.
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
TBH I think things get less hard if they go too fast. Things can lose power and impact at faster speeds.
It's things like Hard Techno and some of the more Industrial Hardcore stuff that take the spot.
Things like Nu-Style Gabber and Hardstyle can be pretty cheesy in the riff dept. at times tbh. Massive distortion doesn't always = hard either.
To anyone who still doesnt understand this is what im saying. Speed it up too much and the kicks become weaker as they have less room to really punch through. And distortion if anything takes away that punch even more leaving... well a distorted mess, thats not particullary what id call hard.
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Edited by - Meathead on 2009/04/21 11:26:57 |
Meathead
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 10:42:03
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Originally posted by Wilky:
Hardstyle isnt hard? Its tonnes harder than uk hardcore...
Thats the measure youre using? There's a hell of a lot of things in this world harder than UK Hardcore. Hardstyle is harder than UK Haredcore of course, its also just as cheesy.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 11:06:06
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by Not me:
Sorry but it sounded like you were trying to explain us that when music is played faster, that it's faster. WTF !
That is what i was saying. My point being, for the 3rd or so time; faster doesnt = harder, just faster.
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
TBH I think things get less hard if they go too fast. Things can lose power and impact at faster speeds.
It's things like Hard Techno and some of the more Industrial Hardcore stuff that take the spot.
Things like Nu-Style Gabber and Hardstyle can be pretty cheesy in the riff dept. at times tbh. Massive distortion doesn't always = hard either.
To anyone who still doesnt understand this is what im saying. Speed it up too much and the kicks become weaker as they have less room to really punch through. And distortion if anything takes away that punch even more leaving... well a distorted mess, thats not particullary what id call hard.
Hey, that first quote wasn't me. :P
*edit*
Nice one. ;)
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Edited by - Audio Warfare on 2009/04/21 11:28:15 |
Meathead
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 11:28:06
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Originally posted by Audio Warfare:
Hey, that first quote wasn't me. :P
Woops 
lol Ive not had much sleep i apoligise. Sorted ;)
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Edited by - Meathead on 2009/04/21 11:29:31 |
DJ Notna
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 16:02:38
Hardcore !
"God is a DJ"
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Fishy
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 16:14:45
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Probably the hardest stuff i have come across is early Passenger of Shit stuff.. Hes an extreme speedcore/epic weirdo (no offence intended) from Sydney.. He is a painter too and decorates his studio with penis mutiliation art.
The stuff he does is speedcore and breakcore, which is some of the craziest , hardest breakcore ive ever heard. Along with ear piercing Screaming (much more noticable in early releases)..
Check out his myspace or him on youtube, crazy stuff!
He's terrible xD I wonder if something happened to his penis? couse of the obsession
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 16:54:39
Why is everyone involved in Speedcore and Breakcore obsessed with Penis'? It just seems odd.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 16:56:10
Hardstep/Darkstep can be quite hard too :
Gasmask71 - The Prophecy
Check at 1:50
Or this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtRdGbTuvL4&fmt=18
Check @ ~3:00
That tune Cytech - The 6th Sense was removed from Youtube unforunately.
Damn this kicks.
Okay I know there's millions of harder stuff, but this is just.. I don't know. It's not harder but more complicated, and it just f--king rox !
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/04/21 : 17:05:13
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Hardstep/Darkstep can be quite hard too :
Gasmask71 - The Prophecy
Check at 1:50
Or this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtRdGbTuvL4&fmt=18
Check @ ~3:00
That tune Cytech - The 6th Sense was removed from Youtube unforunately.
Damn this kicks.
Okay I know there's millions of harder stuff, but this is just.. I don't know. It's not harder but more complicated, and it just f--king rox !
See that's more like it mate. Current Value and Donny FTW though ;)
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2009/04/22 : 01:52:17
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Originally posted by Fishy:
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Originally posted by Starstruck:
Probably the hardest stuff i have come across is early Passenger of Shit stuff.. Hes an extreme speedcore/epic weirdo (no offence intended) from Sydney.. He is a painter too and decorates his studio with penis mutiliation art.
The stuff he does is speedcore and breakcore, which is some of the craziest , hardest breakcore ive ever heard. Along with ear piercing Screaming (much more noticable in early releases)..
Check out his myspace or him on youtube, crazy stuff!
He's terrible xD I wonder if something happened to his penis? couse of the obsession
Hahahah
i dont understand the phallic obsession.. but on the contrary i kinda like his music. Absolutely mental stuff.. incredibly fast cut up amens with a speedcore kick and a happy melody hahaha.
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/04/22 : 08:45:40
while its not current, the first hardstyle stuff was very hard imo. Some of the really dark freeform psy-trance and the hardscape stuff can be pretty hard.
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nearly in line....
.....strange continuity problems
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