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atomsk
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well i think mainly british, well i think.....
ive heard it tv shows (the ones i watch on the web), on youtube vids, like every where i see non-american people

like its about the letter "Z"

lets say we have a product number.... "Z-3586"
american's would say it "Z(zz)-3586" and i think its british, they say it "z(zed)-3586"

why is that, z is zed?
is it just how you guys where taught?
and i know that other country has different speech and stuff

btw this is not ment to be any form of racism or w/e, im just wondering lol


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Are you slagging of the way english people speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Pretty sure that it was an english invention. Isn't the clue in the name?


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quote:
Originally posted by ABET:
Are you slagging of the way english people speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Pretty sure that it was an english invention. Isn't the clue in the name?



You think one "people", I guess you could say, 'invented' one language?

It was groups of many that made English what it is today.



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Posted - 2009/10/02 :  11:09:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ABET's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
quote:
Originally posted by ABET:
Are you slagging of the way english people speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Pretty sure that it was an english invention. Isn't the clue in the name?



You think one "people", I guess you could say, 'invented' one language?

It was groups of many that made English what it is today.






True but it wasn't americans. (no offense meant)


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quote:
Originally posted by ABET:
quote:
Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
quote:
Originally posted by ABET:
Are you slagging of the way english people speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Pretty sure that it was an english invention. Isn't the clue in the name?



You think one "people", I guess you could say, 'invented' one language?

It was groups of many that made English what it is today.






True but it wasn't americans. (no offense meant)




Oh, no offense at all.

We didn't invent the language, it was carried over from the European colonies. That's no lie, but England weren't the ones to strictly invent English, was all I was saying.


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Posted - 2009/10/02 :  12:29:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
lol it was just a question, dont think he was trying to insult anyone!

not sure why its that way - somthing to do with phonics no doubt

A...Ah
B ..Bee
H..Huh
S..ssss (like a snake!)
Z...Zeeeee..or Zuhhhhhh?

A...Ay
B...Bee
H....Aitch (or "incorrectly" HuhAitch)
S....ESS (or "incorrectly" SssEss)
Z....Zed....... (wth! lol)


language is interesting


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Yea man chillin with some Jay Zed on :P

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Posted - 2009/10/02 :  13:35:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit ABET's homepage
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Yea man chillin with some Jay Zed on :P





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American people just say it wrong, simple as that. If they said every other letter the same way it would be different. It's like the ammount of Americans that say 'i could care less' is actually shocking, i mean, from people who are seemingly intelligent, but it's so blatantly wrong that it's not even funny.
Another shining example is the many Americans who say 'don't got' instead of 'don't have', i mean it seems that most people say this and somehow fail to be aware of just how wrong it sounds.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2009/10/04 13:51:12
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never said this on these forums but...cllaaasic case of american ignorance. and at the same time a clllaassic case of america doing things different, seemingly JUST do be different. i dont blame you atomsk it isnt on you at all, its just what youve been taught, and experienced. in fact your finding out on your own, which is fantastic, so kudos even. but im fairly certain its pronounced Zed in every major version of english except american.
unfortunately the ammount of americanism in canada means that most people will pronounce zed, zee because we get so much american media. myself included. even though in 'proper CANADIAN English' it's pronounced Zed.

i really could go on forever as i consider myself somewhat of a linguist and can argue that every person has they're own personal language, as does every group of friends, schools, to cities, reigons, and provences/states and then countries and finally nations.

the point is if you understand that someone means the letter z...mission accomplished


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organise/organize... the feck? xD

Zeeeee obsession!
beeep! ho ho ho! Zeeeeeeee!


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In many dialects of English, the letter's name is zed, pronounced /ˈzɛd/, reflecting its derivation from the Greek zeta (see below). In American English, its name is zee /ˈziː/, deriving from a late 17th century English dialectal form.[1] Another English dialectal form is izzard /ˈɪzərd/, which dates from the mid-18th century and probably derives from the French et zède "and z".[2] Other Indo-European languages pronounce the letter's name in a similar fashion, such as zet in Dutch, German, Romanian and Czech, zède in French, zæt in Danish, zäta in Swedish, zeta in Italian and in Spanish dialects with seseo, and in Portuguese.
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there - wiki'd


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Posted - 2009/10/02 :  19:51:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TheOneNOnly's homepage
Never knew it was "properly" pronounced as Zed.

But, it's understandable why I never knew. Considering where I live (America), our way may not be the "right" way, but hey. Add onto this of dialects, and how someone adds their own accent onto an already vast language, you get even more 'wrong' sounding words.

I agree with this:

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Originally posted by Jester MC:
the point is if you understand that someone means the letter z...mission accomplished


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Edited by - TheOneNOnly on 2009/10/02 19:52:33
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We call the infamous Z 'sett' in Norwegian ;> obviously 'zed' is the appropriate name.

And most nouns in English come from Old Norse, so booya!


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Ooo nice topic.

I have a theory that when the English started to enforce penal laws (Dont laugh at the name) in Ireland and the people we're forced to learn English, whoever was in charge decided, possibly as an act of rebellion, to speak the worst, most grammatically incorrect dialect of English as possible and just miss pronounce every word so hideously that no matter where any future Irishman goes in the world it will be immediately obvious to everyone within a 10 meter radius that said person is Irish.


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Zeeeee!

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