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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 19:49:36
Maybe I'm just one of the rare? < Replying to earlier comment.
I've met the PERFECT girl for me, and I asked her to marry me. Why do I say she's perfect? She's exactly like me; everything we do, we do the same. Everything we did, we did the same. When growing up, shows we watched, bands we listened to, all of it was the same. We bring the good sides of each other out, and we help each other through anything bad in life.
Even now, we do things the same. Wake up, and do the same things, together. Can always tell you what her reply would be to something, what she might think of something, how she feels on a subject, and she can do the same for me. How do I know this? Because we've been doing it since the day we started dating, and it hasn't stopped yet. It never will.
So, you tell me. Do I believe in love? Yes. Do I believe in true love? Yes.
Why? Because when you actually meet someone that is literally perfect for you in every way, you can feel the same as me. I'll be honest, I didn't believe in "love" for the longest time. Because, to me, it was just some thing people told you. Like a few of you have stated before, just something to tell the kids. Never thought there was anyone really out there for me, since I don't pride myself with being the same as others.
Then on one lucky night, I stumbled on someone new. We got to talking, then went our ways. But, we kept coming back. Always talking to each other anytime we can, always being with each other. The funny thing is, we never asked each other out. It just, happened. We just spent so much time together it was natural, and we fell in love.
OH! There's that key word. We did, because I'll take a quote from somewhere. Love isn't finding someone you can live with, it's finding someone you can't live without. Which, to me at least, is true. Because I'm the happiest I've been, ever, in my life. I used to be a pretty pessimistic guy, about everything and anything, now I'm surprisingly optimistic about most things. That good side in me was brought out, by one person. Someone that changed my life forever.
So, naturally, of course I believe in love. And believe there is someone out there for everyone, it's just not always that easy to find. Mind sure in hell wasn't, it was chance. Or, what I like to say, fate.
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 20:39:32
I believe.
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Satori
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 20:43:17
quote: Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
Maybe I'm just one of the rare? < Replying to earlier comment.
I've met the PERFECT girl for me, and I asked her to marry me. Why do I say she's perfect? She's exactly like me; everything we do, we do the same. Everything we did, we did the same. When growing up, shows we watched, bands we listened to, all of it was the same. We bring the good sides of each other out, and we help each other through anything bad in life.
Even now, we do things the same. Wake up, and do the same things, together. Can always tell you what her reply would be to something, what she might think of something, how she feels on a subject, and she can do the same for me. How do I know this? Because we've been doing it since the day we started dating, and it hasn't stopped yet. It never will.
So, you tell me. Do I believe in love? Yes. Do I believe in true love? Yes.
Why? Because when you actually meet someone that is literally perfect for you in every way, you can feel the same as me. I'll be honest, I didn't believe in "love" for the longest time. Because, to me, it was just some thing people told you. Like a few of you have stated before, just something to tell the kids. Never thought there was anyone really out there for me, since I don't pride myself with being the same as others.
Then on one lucky night, I stumbled on someone new. We got to talking, then went our ways. But, we kept coming back. Always talking to each other anytime we can, always being with each other. The funny thing is, we never asked each other out. It just, happened. We just spent so much time together it was natural, and we fell in love.
OH! There's that key word. We did, because I'll take a quote from somewhere. Love isn't finding someone you can live with, it's finding someone you can't live without. Which, to me at least, is true. Because I'm the happiest I've been, ever, in my life. I used to be a pretty pessimistic guy, about everything and anything, now I'm surprisingly optimistic about most things. That good side in me was brought out, by one person. Someone that changed my life forever.
So, naturally, of course I believe in love. And believe there is someone out there for everyone, it's just not always that easy to find. Mind sure in hell wasn't, it was chance. Or, what I like to say, fate.
then you're veeeery lucky :)
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Fishy
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 21:07:55
True love is not about being in love or some shit like that.. Love is about givin out of love and not wanting anything in return, just out of love, thats the only true love.. To get love u got to love...
And ye if u dont belive in love, u cant receive love, neither give love..
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 21:46:07
who still believes in what?
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Satori
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 22:56:40
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
True love is not about being in love or some shit like that.. Love is about givin out of love and not wanting anything in return, just out of love, thats the only true love.. To get love u got to love...
And ye if u dont belive in love, u cant receive love, neither give love..
then i don't believe in love) kill me, but i don't understand how one can give without wanting smth in return. maybe i just don't have an ability to love, but probably this ostensibly true love was created by those great poets whom we trust without doubt and exists only in minds of people too naive and trustful))
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Fishy
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Posted - 2009/10/15 : 23:03:25
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
True love is not about being in love or some shit like that.. Love is about givin out of love and not wanting anything in return, just out of love, thats the only true love.. To get love u got to love...
And ye if u dont belive in love, u cant receive love, neither give love..
then i don't believe in love) kill me, but i don't understand how one can give without wanting smth in return. maybe i just don't have an ability to love, but probably this ostensibly true love was created by those great poets whom we trust without doubt and exists only in minds of people too naive and trustful))
Ye well.. thats why the world is full of pain and loveless.. everybody just wants, and noone wants to give... If everyone always wanted to give then there would be no problems at all. Love is the answer to anything
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Satori
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Posted - 2009/10/16 : 08:55:12
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
True love is not about being in love or some shit like that.. Love is about givin out of love and not wanting anything in return, just out of love, thats the only true love.. To get love u got to love...
And ye if u dont belive in love, u cant receive love, neither give love..
then i don't believe in love) kill me, but i don't understand how one can give without wanting smth in return. maybe i just don't have an ability to love, but probably this ostensibly true love was created by those great poets whom we trust without doubt and exists only in minds of people too naive and trustful))
Ye well.. thats why the world is full of pain and loveless.. everybody just wants, and noone wants to give... If everyone always wanted to give then there would be no problems at all. Love is the answer to anything
so easy to say...
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Fishy
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Posted - 2009/10/16 : 15:33:22
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Fishy:
True love is not about being in love or some shit like that.. Love is about givin out of love and not wanting anything in return, just out of love, thats the only true love.. To get love u got to love...
And ye if u dont belive in love, u cant receive love, neither give love..
then i don't believe in love) kill me, but i don't understand how one can give without wanting smth in return. maybe i just don't have an ability to love, but probably this ostensibly true love was created by those great poets whom we trust without doubt and exists only in minds of people too naive and trustful))
Ye well.. thats why the world is full of pain and loveless.. everybody just wants, and noone wants to give... If everyone always wanted to give then there would be no problems at all. Love is the answer to anything
so easy to say...
Ye well its the truth, the human ego is the only problem in this world
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2009/10/16 : 15:58:00
Fishy is absolutely correct on both points.
Satori i hope that your view is more down to your age (i'm not being patronising) than just being plain cynical. As for wether it exists or not; well, that's for you to decide, you can make it happen any time you like. It dosn't 'just' exist and it dosn't just 'not' exist, everyone has the choice to act that way or not. People who complain about love not existing or anything else equally positive is just making an excuse for the fact that they don't wish to be that way, for the most part (also i a lot of them clearly don't realise this).
If you don't like the idea of love or selflessness then just say that, but don't say something that dosn't really make sense and is clearly not true for anyone but yourself (i'm not talking to anyone specific).
I personally don't care what anyone thinks, i mean it's your choice how you view something, it has nothing to do with me.
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Satori
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Posted - 2009/10/16 : 23:36:09
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Fishy is absolutely correct on both points.
Satori i hope that your view is more down to your age (i'm not being patronising) than just being plain cynical. As for wether it exists or not; well, that's for you to decide, you can make it happen any time you like. It dosn't 'just' exist and it dosn't just 'not' exist, everyone has the choice to act that way or not. People who complain about love not existing or anything else equally positive is just making an excuse for the fact that they don't wish to be that way, for the most part (also i a lot of them clearly don't realise this).
If you don't like the idea of love or selflessness then just say that, but don't say something that dosn't really make sense and is clearly not true for anyone but yourself (i'm not talking to anyone specific).
I personally don't care what anyone thinks, i mean it's your choice how you view something, it has nothing to do with me.
no, i'm not a cynic, it's to deal with the lack of experience and a confusion in my mind. what i'm talking about is that i want to be sincere with myself, i want to be aware of what the so-called love is: an idea that i've eventually found it, while it's only a way i want to think, or the real love of my life. as i can see the whole thing among my friends, they fall in love almost every month and every time they're sure that now it's 4ever; i don't get it at all. i mean, how one can recognize the love? and what do people mean saying this word?
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Posted - 2009/10/16 : 23:54:11
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Fishy is absolutely correct on both points.
Satori i hope that your view is more down to your age (i'm not being patronising) than just being plain cynical. As for wether it exists or not; well, that's for you to decide, you can make it happen any time you like. It dosn't 'just' exist and it dosn't just 'not' exist, everyone has the choice to act that way or not. People who complain about love not existing or anything else equally positive is just making an excuse for the fact that they don't wish to be that way, for the most part (also i a lot of them clearly don't realise this).
If you don't like the idea of love or selflessness then just say that, but don't say something that dosn't really make sense and is clearly not true for anyone but yourself (i'm not talking to anyone specific).
I personally don't care what anyone thinks, i mean it's your choice how you view something, it has nothing to do with me.
as i can see the whole thing among my friends, they fall in love almost every month and every time they're sure that now it's 4ever; i don't get it at all. i mean, how one can recognize the love? and what do people mean saying this word?
Yeah that is not love at all, it's lust; the sexual attraction between male and female. Means nothing really, and it's purely conditional. I think that's a load of ******** too. at least that is my opinion. Most people seem to have a varying opinion of what 'love' is. Well first of all it helps to realise what it isn't. It is not lust; you cannot claim you love someone just because you've been attracted to them for some time. It is not attachment. If you 'care' about someone only because you have become attached to them then that is not love either. Your only caring about your own interests.
The best defintion of love as i see it is the completely unconditional caring for all life and creation, and it is exists outside of the ego.
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Satori
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Posted - 2009/10/17 : 00:26:52
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Fishy is absolutely correct on both points.
Satori i hope that your view is more down to your age (i'm not being patronising) than just being plain cynical. As for wether it exists or not; well, that's for you to decide, you can make it happen any time you like. It dosn't 'just' exist and it dosn't just 'not' exist, everyone has the choice to act that way or not. People who complain about love not existing or anything else equally positive is just making an excuse for the fact that they don't wish to be that way, for the most part (also i a lot of them clearly don't realise this).
If you don't like the idea of love or selflessness then just say that, but don't say something that dosn't really make sense and is clearly not true for anyone but yourself (i'm not talking to anyone specific).
I personally don't care what anyone thinks, i mean it's your choice how you view something, it has nothing to do with me.
as i can see the whole thing among my friends, they fall in love almost every month and every time they're sure that now it's 4ever; i don't get it at all. i mean, how one can recognize the love? and what do people mean saying this word?
Yeah that is not love at all, it's lust; the sexual attraction between male and female. Means nothing really, and it's purely conditional. I think that's a load of ******** too. at least that is my opinion. Most people seem to have a varying opinion of what 'love' is. Well first of all it helps to realise what it isn't. It is not lust; you cannot claim you love someone just because you've been attracted to them for some time. It is not attachment. If you 'care' about someone only because you have become attached to them then that is not love either. Your only caring about your own interests.
The best defintion of love as i see it is the completely unconditional caring for all life and creation, and it is exists outside of the ego.
then love is some kind of a gift. but if it exists outside the ego, how does it appear? o_O
and you say when you care about someone because of your attachment, you care about your own interests. why do you think so?
as for me, i think love between a man and a woman can exist only if it's mutual, because one-way love is more about suffering than love. doesn't your love grow and become stronger when you know you're loved?
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Posted - 2009/10/17 : 01:40:55
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote: Originally posted by Satori:
quote: Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Fishy is absolutely correct on both points.
Satori i hope that your view is more down to your age (i'm not being patronising) than just being plain cynical. As for wether it exists or not; well, that's for you to decide, you can make it happen any time you like. It dosn't 'just' exist and it dosn't just 'not' exist, everyone has the choice to act that way or not. People who complain about love not existing or anything else equally positive is just making an excuse for the fact that they don't wish to be that way, for the most part (also i a lot of them clearly don't realise this).
If you don't like the idea of love or selflessness then just say that, but don't say something that dosn't really make sense and is clearly not true for anyone but yourself (i'm not talking to anyone specific).
I personally don't care what anyone thinks, i mean it's your choice how you view something, it has nothing to do with me.
as i can see the whole thing among my friends, they fall in love almost every month and every time they're sure that now it's 4ever; i don't get it at all. i mean, how one can recognize the love? and what do people mean saying this word?
Yeah that is not love at all, it's lust; the sexual attraction between male and female. Means nothing really, and it's purely conditional. I think that's a load of ******** too. at least that is my opinion. Most people seem to have a varying opinion of what 'love' is. Well first of all it helps to realise what it isn't. It is not lust; you cannot claim you love someone just because you've been attracted to them for some time. It is not attachment. If you 'care' about someone only because you have become attached to them then that is not love either. Your only caring about your own interests.
The best defintion of love as i see it is the completely unconditional caring for all life and creation, and it is exists outside of the ego.
then love is some kind of a gift. but if it exists outside the ego, how does it appear? o_O
and you say when you care about someone because of your attachment, you care about your own interests. why do you think so?
as for me, i think love between a man and a woman can exist only if it's mutual, because one-way love is more about suffering than love. doesn't your love grow and become stronger when you know you're loved?
I agree if it's not mutual then it's not really love is it.
By existing outside of the ego i mean that you don't choose to care about someone based on your own reasons, you do it because it's the right thing to do. Although this isn't going to make much sense to you because our definition of what love is differs. I can't really answer what you've asked without confusing you further.
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Posted - 2009/10/18 : 12:02:38
Wow. must be a pretty empty life mate.
quote: he's exactly like me; everything we do, we do the same. Everything we did, we did the same. When growing up, shows we watched, bands we listened to, all of it was the same. Even now, we do things the same. Wake up, and do the same things, together. Can always tell you what her reply would be to something, what she might think of something, how she feels on a subject, and she can do the same for me.
Thats, uhh, a bit weird man. Deep down dont you keep thinking your just tapping yourself?
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