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emcee_Whiskey
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 Posted - 2010/07/31 : 13:56:11
As the thread title states...
Discuss ;)
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Lilley
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 15:45:10
Whats to discuss? it's pretty simple rule to follow that helps in any situation. Australia >> UK
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 15:55:53
Aussie Hardcore is UK Hardcore made in Australia.
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djgraemeb
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 16:35:00
i might sound a bit thick but which DJs/Producers are aussie?
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catlikethief
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 18:29:22
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Aussie Hardcore is UK Hardcore made in Australia.
Yep. Except most hardcore from Australia that I've heard is way cheesier and shittier in every aspect.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 19:07:21
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Originally posted by djgraemeb:
i might sound a bit thick but which DJs/Producers are aussie?
S3rl, Weaver, Sc@r, Lumin8, Haze, Orbit1 I guess are the most well known ones (although I feel like Im forgetting one :s )
TBH, UK made Hardcore is miles ahead of Australian made hardcore in terms of both quality and diversity. Dont get me wrong, the above names, and other Aussies, have made some great hardcore tracks, but you dont have anyone as talented as guys like Darwin, Fracus, Al Storm, Gammer IMO.
I think it will be many many years until an Aussie DJ/producer is able to move to the UK and play main stage at every big event ;) Whereas a UK based hardcore producer like Gammer etc could easily go to Australia and headline hardcore events :p
Both styles are pretty much the same, its just the nationality of the people thats different lol, but I feel that the UK is still the home of UK hardcore lol. Aussie hardcore is certainly coming on strong though and seems to be growing and growing, which is great :) and will hopefully make your scene bigger.
I would say Australia are the 2nd best country at making the style referred to as UK hardcore, as they are miles ahead of the USA who really only have 1 or maybe 2 producers worth shouting about.
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 19:21:12
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Aussie Hardcore is UK Hardcore made in Australia.
^^^ agreed. Except that the Aussie has that donk sound.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 20:19:24
Austrailia hardcore is much better than ukcore..... Well mot all but sum uk producers coulf really take lessons from the aussie crew
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Janster
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 20:55:30
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Originally posted by redwingz:
S3rl, Weaver, Sc@r, Lumin8, Haze, Orbit1 I guess are the most well known ones (although I feel like Im forgetting one :s )
TBH, UK made Hardcore is miles ahead of Australian made hardcore in terms of both quality and diversity. Dont get me wrong, the above names, and other Aussies, have made some great hardcore tracks, but you dont have anyone as talented as guys like Darwin, Fracus, Al Storm, Gammer IMO.
I think it will be many many years until an Aussie DJ/producer is able to move to the UK and play main stage at every big event ;) Whereas a UK based hardcore producer like Gammer etc could easily go to Australia and headline hardcore events :p
Both styles are pretty much the same, its just the nationality of the people thats different lol, but I feel that the UK is still the home of UK hardcore lol. Aussie hardcore is certainly coming on strong though and seems to be growing and growing, which is great :) and will hopefully make your scene bigger.
I would say Australia are the 2nd best country at making the style referred to as UK hardcore, as they are miles ahead of the USA who really only have 1 or maybe 2 producers worth shouting about.
The US has more than just 1 or 2 great producers. Luna-C and Oli G are both US producers now. Plus there's Reese, Milo, No Left Turn, Ian K, Michael Mansion, Rize & Starr, Tony Benino, Mr. Jakk, Audio-X, and more.
Also, Orbit1 is easily as talented as Fracus.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2010/07/31 : 23:51:10
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Originally posted by Janster:
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Originally posted by redwingz:
S3rl, Weaver, Sc@r, Lumin8, Haze, Orbit1 I guess are the most well known ones (although I feel like Im forgetting one :s )
TBH, UK made Hardcore is miles ahead of Australian made hardcore in terms of both quality and diversity. Dont get me wrong, the above names, and other Aussies, have made some great hardcore tracks, but you dont have anyone as talented as guys like Darwin, Fracus, Al Storm, Gammer IMO.
I think it will be many many years until an Aussie DJ/producer is able to move to the UK and play main stage at every big event ;) Whereas a UK based hardcore producer like Gammer etc could easily go to Australia and headline hardcore events :p
Both styles are pretty much the same, its just the nationality of the people thats different lol, but I feel that the UK is still the home of UK hardcore lol. Aussie hardcore is certainly coming on strong though and seems to be growing and growing, which is great :) and will hopefully make your scene bigger.
I would say Australia are the 2nd best country at making the style referred to as UK hardcore, as they are miles ahead of the USA who really only have 1 or maybe 2 producers worth shouting about.
The US has more than just 1 or 2 great producers. Luna-C and Oli G are both US producers now. Plus there's Reese, Milo, No Left Turn, Ian K, Michael Mansion, Rize & Starr, Tony Benino, Mr. Jakk, Audio-X, and more.
Also, Orbit1 is easily as talented as Fracus.
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 02:10:39
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Luna-C and Oli G are both US producers now.
They might have U.S. citizenship but as far as I'm concerned they're still British artists more so due to the fact that they became known in the scene while in the UK.
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Also, Orbit1 is easily as talented as Fracus.
Indeed!
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 02:14:29
As for the topic...
"Quality" does NOT have a nationality.
...Though the same could be said for "Shit".
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 04:36:42
Where are the tracks by No Left Turn, and the rest of these American artists able to be purchased at, besides Rize & Starr and Michael Mansion (I know they are on Imodownload). Wasn't there some guy in California called Spree? And some other guy called Cloud-something...maybe..? I've never really been thrilled with what I've heard from the American artists such as AC Slater & Sunrize. (AC Slater is an American producer, right?)
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 05:12:29
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(AC Slater is an American producer, right?)
i think he might've been canadian, or a brit who moved to the US, but i've personally never liked his hardcore that much. his electro/house or whatever he does now is much better.
and as far as which hardcore is better, hands-down it's the UK that makes the better hardcore. Although there are many talented Aussie producers, individually their stuff isn't diverse. many of them like to settle to one specific sound.
UK producers, especially the ones mentioned above, have a more diverse palette.
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DJ-Hutchy
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 14:58:11
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Originally posted by redwingz:
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Originally posted by djgraemeb:
i might sound a bit thick but which DJs/Producers are aussie?
S3rl, Weaver, Sc@r, Lumin8, Haze, Orbit1 I guess are the most well known ones (although I feel like Im forgetting one :s )
TBH, UK made Hardcore is miles ahead of Australian made hardcore in terms of both quality and diversity. Dont get me wrong, the above names, and other Aussies, have made some great hardcore tracks, but you dont have anyone as talented as guys like Darwin, Fracus, Al Storm, Gammer IMO.
I think it will be many many years until an Aussie DJ/producer is able to move to the UK and play main stage at every big event ;) Whereas a UK based hardcore producer like Gammer etc could easily go to Australia and headline hardcore events :p
I agree!!! but i think Orbit 1 could have headlined the big uk events and think he should of, he is a really talented producer, a lot more talented than a lot of uk hardcore artist's!!! But i heard sum stuff about him and if its true thats the reason why he didnt get big bookings!!!!
But he is talented as fcuk>>>
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redwingz
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Posted - 2010/08/01 : 16:50:41
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Originally posted by Janster:
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Originally posted by redwingz:
S3rl, Weaver, Sc@r, Lumin8, Haze, Orbit1 I guess are the most well known ones (although I feel like Im forgetting one :s )
TBH, UK made Hardcore is miles ahead of Australian made hardcore in terms of both quality and diversity. Dont get me wrong, the above names, and other Aussies, have made some great hardcore tracks, but you dont have anyone as talented as guys like Darwin, Fracus, Al Storm, Gammer IMO.
I think it will be many many years until an Aussie DJ/producer is able to move to the UK and play main stage at every big event ;) Whereas a UK based hardcore producer like Gammer etc could easily go to Australia and headline hardcore events :p
Both styles are pretty much the same, its just the nationality of the people thats different lol, but I feel that the UK is still the home of UK hardcore lol. Aussie hardcore is certainly coming on strong though and seems to be growing and growing, which is great :) and will hopefully make your scene bigger.
I would say Australia are the 2nd best country at making the style referred to as UK hardcore, as they are miles ahead of the USA who really only have 1 or maybe 2 producers worth shouting about.
The US has more than just 1 or 2 great producers. Luna-C and Oli G are both US producers now. Plus there's Reese, Milo, No Left Turn, Ian K, Michael Mansion, Rize & Starr, Tony Benino, Mr. Jakk, Audio-X, and more.
Also, Orbit1 is easily as talented as Fracus.
hahaha step back! You cant claim Luna-C and Oli G as American! They are English, they just live over there, in the same way that Sc@r lives in England but is an Aussie! Luna-C and Oli G count for the UK, not USA.
Reese, Milo and Michael Mansion are very good, although Reese has pretty much packed in.
Name me a UK produced hardcore compilation (CXH, HTID, HU etc) that contains a track from Ian K, No left Turn, Rize and Starr or Mr Jakk......to my knowledge there isnt one. Im not saying they are bad producers, all the Americans you named are good at what they do, with Milo and MM probably being the best you have. But none of the other guys have their music regularly played by DJs outside of the USA.
Lets put it this way.......If I never visited hardcore forums (which most fans of the music dont) I would never have heard of Rize and Starr, No left Turn, Ian K, Mr Jakk or Tony Benino. I only know who they are cause I visit these forums and have heard their names and so take an interest in their stuff. Your average UK raver would never have even heard of them Im afraid.
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