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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2010/12/11 : 18:59:55
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Originally posted by atomsk:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
what benefit does anyone have to gain out of doing any of this?
you know you lead a pretty poor life when your idea of excitement is hacking well-known websites for fun and "haha's"
****, go to a pub.
I would go to a pub, but guess what.... I cant drink over here for another 4 years. I cant risk getting my license taken away right now either, so underage drinking isnt on my to do list right now.
Btw in the area I'm in if you get caught drinking under the age of 21, you get your license taken away for like 6 months to a year.
good. if you aren't clever enough to hide your alcoholic tendencies better, you deserve to get punished 
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2010/12/12 : 00:01:59
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
what benefit does anyone have to gain out of doing any of this?
you know you lead a pretty poor life when your idea of excitement is hacking well-known websites for fun and "haha's"
****, go to a pub.
Yea i know, those ****ing activists. They should just let them do whatever they do. **** freedom of speech.
It doesn't matter if its a 16 year old no life geek, at least their doing something.
^This.
While I generally disagree with quite a number of posts Wikileaks have put up, especially when in some of them they didn't take the time to erase any names, or just put up plain retarded things, what they're trying to do is good. And these people are standing up to the United States, who you KNOW is pushing these companies to drop support, or the companies drop support out of fear.
Before, standing up to the governments trying to shut someone down would require massive gatherings. Now? A few dozen, if not more, hackers can actually stand up to sites. Of course, this all has negative sides to, i.e. cards getting leaked.
I don't understand how hacking paypal is 'standing up to the united states'?
I don't understand how leaking people's credit card numbers is 'standing up to the united states'?
Sound like people are getting ****ed, not the government. Hooray!
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2010/12/12 : 00:08:01
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
what benefit does anyone have to gain out of doing any of this?
you know you lead a pretty poor life when your idea of excitement is hacking well-known websites for fun and "haha's"
****, go to a pub.
Yea i know, those ****ing activists. They should just let them do whatever they do. **** freedom of speech.
It doesn't matter if its a 16 year old no life geek, at least their doing something.
^This.
While I generally disagree with quite a number of posts Wikileaks have put up, especially when in some of them they didn't take the time to erase any names, or just put up plain retarded things, what they're trying to do is good. And these people are standing up to the United States, who you KNOW is pushing these companies to drop support, or the companies drop support out of fear.
Before, standing up to the governments trying to shut someone down would require massive gatherings. Now? A few dozen, if not more, hackers can actually stand up to sites. Of course, this all has negative sides to, i.e. cards getting leaked.
I don't understand how hacking paypal is 'standing up to the united states'?
I don't understand how leaking people's credit card numbers is 'standing up to the united states'?
Sound like people are getting ****ed, not the government. Hooray!
Point out where I said stealing credit card numbers is standing up to them? Look I'll mark it OBVIOUS for you:
Of course, this all has negative sides to, i.e. cards getting leaked.
These companies are backing out because of the pressure they could/would receive from the government, not because they're bad for business because of the consumers. They where getting LOTS of business through these transactions, it's blindly obvious why they stopped supporting them.
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whispering
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Posted - 2010/12/12 : 00:13:56
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
I don't understand how hacking paypal is 'standing up to the united states'?
I don't understand how leaking people's credit card numbers is 'standing up to the united states'?
Sound like people are getting ****ed, not the government. Hooray!
Companies are turning their backs on fundamental values of the western world. It would have been of the press in no time. Instead all major news stations are underlining the issues on their news pieces and columns day after day. I understand some people might not care what our society is turning into, but don't undermine the efforts done by others due to your lack of interest in the subject.
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2010/12/12 : 02:05:54
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
what benefit does anyone have to gain out of doing any of this?
you know you lead a pretty poor life when your idea of excitement is hacking well-known websites for fun and "haha's"
****, go to a pub.
Yea i know, those ****ing activists. They should just let them do whatever they do. **** freedom of speech.
It doesn't matter if its a 16 year old no life geek, at least their doing something.
^This.
While I generally disagree with quite a number of posts Wikileaks have put up, especially when in some of them they didn't take the time to erase any names, or just put up plain retarded things, what they're trying to do is good. And these people are standing up to the United States, who you KNOW is pushing these companies to drop support, or the companies drop support out of fear.
Before, standing up to the governments trying to shut someone down would require massive gatherings. Now? A few dozen, if not more, hackers can actually stand up to sites. Of course, this all has negative sides to, i.e. cards getting leaked.
I don't understand how hacking paypal is 'standing up to the united states'?
I don't understand how leaking people's credit card numbers is 'standing up to the united states'?
Sound like people are getting ****ed, not the government. Hooray!
Point out where I said stealing credit card numbers is standing up to them? Look I'll mark it OBVIOUS for you:
Of course, this all has negative sides to, i.e. cards getting leaked.
These companies are backing out because of the pressure they could/would receive from the government, not because they're bad for business because of the consumers. They where getting LOTS of business through these transactions, it's blindly obvious why they stopped supporting them.
I wonder how you'd feel about it if your credit card was leaked and you suffered repercussions from it.
I'm only trying to point out the moral dilemma. Sure, it may be right in some cases, and it's good that people can stand up for themselves with much less hassle than 20 years ago, but is it right at the expense of hundreds, thousands or maybe millions of other people?
You misunderstand. I wasn't attacking you, i clearly don't understand the situation. I expressed my ignorance and it was met with hostility. Please don't be a keyboard warrior.
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
I don't understand how hacking paypal is 'standing up to the united states'?
I don't understand how leaking people's credit card numbers is 'standing up to the united states'?
Sound like people are getting ****ed, not the government. Hooray!
Companies are turning their backs on fundamental values of the western world. It would have been of the press in no time. Instead all major news stations are underlining the issues on their news pieces and columns day after day. I understand some people might not care what our society is turning into, but don't undermine the efforts done by others due to your lack of interest in the subject.
that's a very large and ignorant statement to make. Whispering you, of all people, i thought was above that. You don't know me and you don't know my interest level based on two posts on a forum that's largely off topic to this subject.
Besides, I would have thought my repeated comments on this would have displayed my most certain interest in the subject, rather than a lack thereof.
I've already said in response to someone else that i obviously don't understand the whole situation - i'm just calling it like i see it... And instead of being met with a counterargument, or more specific information, i'm being slandered. Way to educate.
My whole feeling on the subject is as i've said before - getting your own justice easier these days is all well and good, but i think you cross a moral line by implicating a LOT of innocent people in the process. Surely that can be agreed on?
Otherwise EDUCATE me on the subject if im ignorant, instead of making assumptions about me as a person.
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whispering
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Posted - 2010/12/12 : 08:06:44
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:
that's a very large and ignorant statement to make. Whispering you, of all people, i thought was above that. You don't know me and you don't know my interest level based on two posts on a forum that's largely off topic to this subject.
Besides, I would have thought my repeated comments on this would have displayed my most certain interest in the subject, rather than a lack thereof.
I've already said in response to someone else that i obviously don't understand the whole situation - i'm just calling it like i see it... And instead of being met with a counterargument, or more specific information, i'm being slandered. Way to educate.
My whole feeling on the subject is as i've said before - getting your own justice easier these days is all well and good, but i think you cross a moral line by implicating a LOT of innocent people in the process. Surely that can be agreed on?
Otherwise EDUCATE me on the subject if im ignorant, instead of making assumptions about me as a person.
I did explain the importance, as i see it, in my previous post. The attacks are made by a loose group of people, some might have a higher cause, some not. But its the bigger picture that matters. The target of the attacks are the brands of the companies. Its like the modern day rotten tomatoes. I don't believe the stolen CC numbers were real, but if they were it would be a direct hit on the credibility and security of the company. The funds of the card holders are insured. If you are interested in the subject, then theres a few on this specific matter:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/11/wikileaks-backlash-cyber-war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/dec/11/wikileaks-amazon-denial-democracy-lieberman
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/08/operation-payback-mastercard-website-wikileaks
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