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kathryn
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 Posted - 2011/02/13 : 08:39:02
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Originally posted by JayHH86:
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Originally posted by Ionosphere:
Well.... I don't agree that updating/improving the look is necessary.
Should we compare this site to, for example, a Pub that's lost most of it's drinkers and the owners decide to 'Modernise' it to get the punters back through the door.
Who are the 'new punters' that are attracted to this 'New' pub?
They're the vacuous dick-heads that move from one 'new' place to the next and, in a fairly short while, move on to the next one.
No sense of loyalty or commitment, just selfish fun-seekers.
Do you want them here?
This is a good site. True it's not as busy as it used to be but if those who read these posts and don't bother to reply made the effort, it'd be busy enough.
I could be wrong.
I know I'm relatively new around here, but that's exactly how I feel.
I like the way it looks, it's homely. I like the format, I think it's efficient and good.
I think the reader-to-comment ratio is poor, though. You see a lot of, for example, 7 replies, 59 views - or something like that. That's especially annoying when it's a track release thread. If you're gonna look, then listen - fcuking say something, give some feed back. And the same with free-track releases. A lot of people clearly download the free track and just don't say anything.
Absolutely true this can be gutting for those going out of their way to contributing to the sight have loads of people viewing and like you say not commenting enough. It make's the person think 'why do i bother' 
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kathryn
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 08:47:41
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
i have to start off by saying that this site DOES NOT need to get a new logo/color palette/brighter colors, etc. wikipedia is by far the most colorless, boring-looking website. and yet, ppl still visit it on a daily basis by the millions. Why? because it has the content that ppl are looking for.
also, bright colors are a distraction and aren't easy on the eyes. yes the younglings might enjoy bright colors, but this website caters to all ages and not just the kandy-kids and the wannabe kandy kids. also, if you'd like to see what kind of crowd bright colors attract, go to USH 
As far as the quality of the topics/threads/posts, I think it's better than back from the day. yea there were more ppl posting and more topics, and quite possibly a friendlier crowd, but from what i remember when 1st visiting the forums 7yrs back, most topics barely had more than a page of posts (if even half a page), and there wasn't much substance to those posts, just mostly 1-line posts that were very repetitive. of course there were members that were exception to the rules. and it just seems that ppl are now more vocal about their opinions on the quality and preference of hardcore than before, where back then it seemed like no one wanted to disagree so as to prevent an argument from starting.
What I blame the "desertment" of the site on is that we're growing up. Most of us are adults, with responsibilities, some even with families. such is the way of life. we're too preoccupied to spend 24/7 on this site, and i don't blame anyone for that. or also, our tastes in music have changed. i'm sure many have become bored of the genre or too disappointed in the direction it's taking that they've just given up and/or stopped posting on forums. you can't blame them for that either, it is in their right to do so. no one is obligated to stay here.
and i agree somewhat to the Pub comparison. you can change and modernize a pub all you want, but you'll always have a constant change of crowd no matter what.
what i do believe that this site needs is more regular updates with relevant content. i was kind of disappointed that the front page of the site never had a news story about Darwin & Fracus' Balancing Act on the day of its release, yet it had some Hard Dance Anthems album on the same day that had nothing to do with the genre that this site caters to. It was neither happy nor hardcore. if i knew more about website maintenance, i'd be more than happy the help! :)
sorry for the long post, but this topic deserves it
I hear USH is a very busy sight but don't want to join up and frequent that website as i feel imo i would be betraying this website that back in the day i couldn't wait to frequent contribute and have a laugh with other members in general discussion.
Plus i do owe a lot to the website and Silver as i wouldn't of me my hubby (Mortis) and we wouldn't have our 3 year old daughter.
Silver big high five for that just wished it could be more enticing like it used to be.
I even have happyhardcore.com on my facebook for people to link into and look at dont know if they ever have but the thought is there 
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kathryn
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 09:09:57
This thread from 2005 always makes me laugh good old Dave Murray
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=21875&SearchTerms=medal
and this from 2004>
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=15052
This 1 has a lot of the old members on and a certain hard2get burried in sand first page 
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=27340
lol further down the page @ 14.57 posted by the funny member bone 8 and 9th pic down of him is the gang from here lol
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JayHH86
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 10:52:04
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Originally posted by stray:
I don't think the site needs a facelift, though I would like to see more activity on the homepage. Before recently I only really used this site to log in to my email (@happyhardcore.dj is THE coolest email address, but that's another topic) but I do see the homepage daily to log in. The problem there is, all I ever seem to see there is the radio schedule or occassionally a article about a big commercial release. Maybe a weekly wrap up of what's happening in hardcore or some mention on smaller/underground releases would make the homepage feel more active, instead of just a once a week schedule and an occasional advert for the new Clubland or HTID album.
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
what i do believe that this site needs is more regular updates with relevant content. i was kind of disappointed that the front page of the site never had a news story about Darwin & Fracus' Balancing Act on the day of its release, yet it had some Hard Dance Anthems album on the same day that had nothing to do with the genre that this site caters to. It was neither happy nor hardcore. if i knew more about website maintenance, i'd be more than happy the help! :)
I was thinking exactly the same thing as what you two have said here - and although it might not be the exact solution to bringing more entertainment/quality/engaging threads - I still think it's important, would go a long way to getting a few new faces involved with the forums, and wouldn't be especially time consuming.
Didn't there used to be something like a 'Digi Report'? Maybe only sporadically, perhaps.
If people were willing to do them, had the time to do them, and the knowledge-base to do them - there's a whole load of things you could do. Off the top of my head: Monthly reports for each of the following: Freeform, Breakbeat Hardcore, Upfront Hardcore. You could do like a 'From The Archives' series of threads - whack out some amazing live sets from years ago that people have forgotten about - sure that'd get people talking.
Few things like that? I guess, though, that the problem may not be not having the threads and topics in the first place - but the people that are replying on them, since people are talking about "not feeling like it used to on here". It sounds, though, that that's just down to having a totally different collection of characters and personalities back then to what we have now - and there's really nothing you can do about that.
To be perfectly honest, I still find a lot of stuff entertaining on here - random threads, not just the hardcore-based ones. I certainly find enough stuff on here entertaining to keep me, erm, entertained, so to speak. I don't feel the need for a drastic overhaul or change in direction - but a bit more conscious effort (from any and all of us) with regards to new releases we've discovered and liked, and general stuff like that, would be nice.
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silver
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 12:00:54
If you want more content actually anyone can add it themselves :) just goto the news page and click "add news" at the bottom. It will even credit you with submitting it after approval :)
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 12:41:24
People have been complaining that the sites going downhill as long as I've been a member here. Usually people consider the "good old times" to be the time they started using the site.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 13:12:12
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Originally posted by whispering:
People have been complaining that the sites going downhill as long as I've been a member here. Usually people consider the "good old times" to be the time they started using the site.
Yeah that's probably pretty true. I've been here since 2001 and can safely say that the forum is not going getting less popular. It's different (new set of members) but not less popular. Times just change. There is less of the people who were here before though if that's what is being seen as 'deserted'.
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This 1 has a lot of the old members on and a certain hard2get burried in sand first page
Lol, good times.
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kathryn
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 13:44:13
for example 5 topics active since 9.09am and it.s now like over 4 and a half hours ago. 
Hard2Get>>I've been here since 2001 and can safely say that the forum is not going getting less popular.
Are you kidding?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 13:47:43
No, read the rest of the post. It is not getting less popular than it's been before, it's just normalised if anything. Silver even said it's not.
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Ionosphere
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 14:41:47
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Originally posted by atomsk:
With the traffic lets look at it like this.
Bebo, was all the rage a few years back, didnt keep up with the others growing websites, now its a wasteland.
Myspace, try to keep up every month with the latest and greatest coding, shit went down hill.
Facebook, updates every six months or so, the member base is grown everyday.
If that does not make sense to you then I really dont know lol...
Of course it makes sense to me, I'm not stupid, but that's not what I'm talking about.
This site isn't just another MyFace, Spacebook or Bimbo and isn't in competition with that format and there's a lot of people glad of it.
It's a respite from all that.
It's a place to come to where you'll meet others who specifically like Hardcore, not the world at large and it's dog.
Silver is a busy man, with a life, and has pointed out -
"If you want more content actually anyone can add it themselves :) just goto the news page and click "add news" at the bottom. It will even credit you with submitting it after approval :)"
so, and this is the point, if you want more from this site.... Contribute.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 14:53:45
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With the traffic lets look at it like this.
Bebo, was all the rage a few years back, didnt keep up with the others growing websites, now its a wasteland.
Myspace, try to keep up every month with the latest and greatest coding, shit went down hill.
Facebook, updates every six months or so, the member base is grown everyday.
If that does not make sense to you then I really dont know lol...
Bebo and facebook aren't as popular because people don't like them as much, simple as that. Myspace has tried to keep up to date and it's just as bad as ever now, it hasn't helped anything at all. Facebook wins because it's facebook, up to dateness has nothing to do with it. It just has that which the others don't. Nothing to do with updates, they are just annoying.
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cruelcore1
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 18:25:50
i didnt read the entire topic, but its not tht they got bored of the genre - hardcore is great although many people think its crowded with shit nowadays.
its simple - people try out chatting and foruming, they love it and become addicted, and then get enough of it. Smaller number of people stay addicted, but there are still some that keep on chatting in reasonable measures.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 19:20:57
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Originally posted by kathryn:
This thread from 2005 always makes me laugh good old Dave Murray
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=21875&SearchTerms=medal
and this from 2004>
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=15052
This 1 has a lot of the old members on and a certain hard2get burried in sand first page
http://www.happyhardcore.com/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=27340
lol further down the page @ 14.57 posted by the funny member bone 8 and 9th pic down of him is the gang from here lol
Some good stuff on there Kath!
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 19:30:03
All Dave Murray brought was spam to the site, really nothing good about that. He was the first person to ever spam here, then it caught on a bit.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2011/02/13 : 19:31:29
Someone (I think JayHH86) mentioned about digi-release reports. I think it was Leto who used to add that to the homepage. He would list all the new digi-releases for the month. But remember, with the increasing number of labels these days that would be one hell of a task now.
As for the site. I like it, always have. I dont think there are as many new topics these days. I think this is mainly down to the fact that alot of people dont want to talk on forums anymore. They can find out what they need from facebook etc. There is no rumours anymore because everyone has the DJs as friends on facebook/twitter, so we all know exactly whats going on.
It doesnt surprise me that the site gets more traffic now than before. I just dont think people are as interested in contributing to forums as they were 5+ years ago, but by the view rate, its obvious people are still reading.
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