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latininxtc
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 Posted - 2011/03/10 : 20:16:36
awhile back i started a topic on what brands/models are good for a laptop in hopes that i'll be getting one soon. after some careful consideration (the view of my income as well lol) i've decided that a really good laptop will be very costly, and that i really don't need a laptop as much now that i'm out of school and most of what i'll be using a computer for will be home/personal use
so i'm starting to look into a desktop, but there doesn't seem to be very many options in them these days or good reviews on them. i'm really considering a touchscreen (i think they're also called all-in-one) and they're very reasonably priced, and less than laptops
anybody have good opinions on what good desktops there are out there, or touchscreens? and should i consider going for touchscreen instead of desktops?
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 21:10:28
It depends on what you're going to be using it for primarily (heavy duty or light use?). I don't really know anything about touchscreen PCs but I assume you wouldn't able to upgrade parts yourself like a desktop. So If convenience/portability and app use is important you'd want the touchscreen. If you want something easier to modify/upgrade (and cheaper) you'd want the desktop. I'd suggest if you want a desktop to buy a kit or build it yourself if possible that way you can get the most out of it.
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 21:26:17
i'm not too concerned about being able to build it myself as i would be fine with what the touchscreen comes with. i'm definitely not going to be using it for gameplay, but i would possibly use it mostly for media playing (dvds, music).
i'm also wondering the average life of a touchscreen, i'm not one to update on technology when it first comes out, i'm mostly do it on a need-to basis. my current desktop is almost 9yrs old lol and i've never upgraded anything on the inside except for the memory. everything else has been external (hard drives, dvd player/burner)
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 21:53:26
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
i'm not too concerned about being able to build it myself as i would be fine with what the touchscreen comes with. i'm definitely not going to be using it for gameplay, but i would possibly use it mostly for media playing (dvds, music).
i'm also wondering the average life of a touchscreen, i'm not one to update on technology when it first comes out, i'm mostly do it on a need-to basis. my current desktop is almost 9yrs old lol and i've never upgraded anything on the inside except for the memory. everything else has been external (hard drives, dvd player/burner)
Then don't even get it if you want it for gameplay. You shouldn't ever get a laptop/all-in-one if you want to use it for gaming, period. Why not upgrade your computer over the months to come? Start with a new motherboard/cpu/memory, then upgrade your HDD, then power-supply, and then your graphics card. Upgrading a computer, as you've seen by putting memory in, is matching slots and snapping it in with Windows on your HDD.
It'd be cheaper, you'd have a more powerful machine, for lower the cost of getting a computer that can hardly play games, and you can't upgrade barely at ALL, and you could spread it out to be gradual for less of an impact all at once.
Just my advice and two cents.
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:05:54
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
i'm not too concerned about being able to build it myself as i would be fine with what the touchscreen comes with. i'm definitely not going to be using it for gameplay, but i would possibly use it mostly for media playing (dvds, music).
i'm also wondering the average life of a touchscreen, i'm not one to update on technology when it first comes out, i'm mostly do it on a need-to basis. my current desktop is almost 9yrs old lol and i've never upgraded anything on the inside except for the memory. everything else has been external (hard drives, dvd player/burner)
Then don't even get it if you want it for gameplay. You shouldn't ever get a laptop/all-in-one if you want to use it for gaming, period. Why not upgrade your computer over the months to come? Start with a new motherboard/cpu/memory, then upgrade your HDD, then power-supply, and then your graphics card. Upgrading a computer, as you've seen by putting memory in, is matching slots and snapping it in with Windows on your HDD.
It'd be cheaper, you'd have a more powerful machine, for lower the cost of getting a computer that can hardly play games, and you can't upgrade barely at ALL, and you could spread it out to be gradual for less of an impact all at once.
Just my advice and two cents.
i said i WOULD NOT be using it for gameplay, and yes i already know that laptops & all-in-ones are not good for gameplay, which is why i'm leaning towards getting an all-in-one/touchscreen
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:07:55
But you'd be paying more for less.
Especially since all touch screens have thin glass to allow your finger to activate it, so it's extremely easy to crack.
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:20:46
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Especially since all touch screens have thin glass to allow your finger to activate it, so it's extremely easy to crack.
Incorrect! It depends what type of touch screen it is, Resistive or Capacitive. Only "up there" products have capacitive screens, like Apple products. Capacitive, use your skin to pass a current from your body to the screen, that why you cant use gloves with ipods/iphones. Resistive has two glass type things that read the current change and puts it out as a mouse.
Please read up on things before you generalize technology because of things breaking on you.
Mr.Xtc, what are you concerns about these types of computers?
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:37:47
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
Especially since all touch screens have thin glass to allow your finger to activate it, so it's extremely easy to crack.
Incorrect! It depends what type of touch screen it is, Resistive or Capacitive. Only "up there" products have capacitive screens, like Apple products. Capacitive, use your skin to pass a current from your body to the screen, that why you cant use gloves with ipods/iphones. Resistive has two glass type things that read the current change and puts it out as a mouse.
Please read up on things before you generalize technology because of things breaking on you.
If he's on a strict budget and didn't want to get a laptop due to the price, what makes you think he'd get a screen that uses technology as capacitive, or an Apple? I was correct in assumption that what he would get could, and most possibly would, have the potential to break on him due to thinner glass.
Please learn to comprehend before trying to point out I was wrong.
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:43:12
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Originally posted by atomsk:
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
Especially since all touch screens have thin glass to allow your finger to activate it, so it's extremely easy to crack.
Incorrect! It depends what type of touch screen it is, Resistive or Capacitive. Only "up there" products have capacitive screens, like Apple products. Capacitive, use your skin to pass a current from your body to the screen, that why you cant use gloves with ipods/iphones. Resistive has two glass type things that read the current change and puts it out as a mouse.
Please read up on things before you generalize technology because of things breaking on you.
If he's on a strict budget and didn't want to get a laptop due to the price, what makes you think he'd get a screen that uses technology as capacitive, or an Apple? I was correct in assumption that what he would get could, and most possibly would, have the potential to break on him due to thinner glass.
Please learn to comprehend before trying to point out I was wrong.
my budget isn't THAT strict i don't want to go over 1500. most of the touchscreens i can get for lower than that.
and i'm not too concerned over the safety of the touchscreen. i'm very careful with my electronics. well except for the cd burner this current desktop came with lol i took some of my frustrations out of it
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Posted - 2011/03/10 : 22:49:03
I still stand by upgrading part by part over the span of months. Your budget would get you something far superior to a touchscreen for less, and it'd be less of a hit all at once for more walking around money. It's not like it's hard to upgrade, and I feel, as my opinion, is the most logical choice.
Also: If you hate fingerprints, don't get a touchscreen ._. My lord does it annoy the crap out of me at my work when I see fingerprints and smudges and stains all over the screen.
If you're going touchscreen, I kind of like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103298
But I also have to suggest getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227314 for the same price.
Your choice though.
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 03:16:41
Do you already have any of the following?
* Display(s)
* Speakers
* Peripherals (keyboard, mouse, etc)
If not (or you want to upgrade), you'll want to take them into consideration.
All-in-one computers are extremely difficult to upgrade, as well as service (by the end-user, anyway). It's not just Apple either; you'll have as much difficulty with a Touchsmart. Keep this in mind.
Since the focus will be more on media and browsing, you'll want to have emphasis on hard drive space. Of course this depends on how much you have, and how much "elbow-room" you'll need.
With Intel you get a lot less processing power for the money when compared to AMD. However, later this year it's expected that the standard sockets used by both Intel (LGA1156, LGA1366) and AMD (AM3) will be superseded by newer processors coming out at the time that will use new, non-backwards compatible sockets (LGA1356, LGA2011, and AM3+). This means you're likely to have to shell out for a new processor, motherboard, and memory at a later date if you upgrade. Not that this is critical, but I thought I would bring it up just in case.
I would suggest either buying a new prebuilt system (and upgrading it if necessary, like adding a hard drive) or building one from scratch with the help of a site like Newegg (I love Newegg). Both courses of action can easily be done for under $1500.
If you buy a prebuilt system, please avoid HP/Compaq. Their quality has absolutely tanked over the last few years, and I most certainly not speaking from personal experience. I'm sure there are some other brands people might want to chime in on as well that I'm unaware of or haven't thought of.
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 04:00:45
yea i'm def staying away from HP desktops ever since HP bought out compaq their quality has gone to shit
yea looks like it'll be a desktop, but i'm not planning on building my own, i'll only go as far as customizing them thru dell.
speaking of dell, are they still pretty decent desktops?
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 04:20:26
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yea i'm def staying away from HP desktops ever since HP bought out compaq their quality has gone to shit
yea looks like it'll be a desktop, but i'm not planning on building my own, i'll only go as far as customizing them thru dell.
speaking of dell, are they still pretty decent desktops?
I think (THINK) they've improved from being mediocre to above average. Do your homework on them first though, of course.
This is more from personal experience, but I can recommend Gateway. There are two of them (one a laptop, the other a desktop) in this house that have been functioning flawlessly for about three years now. No incidents relating to cheapness/skimping on their part either. But of course, do your research on them as well.
OPTIONAL READ: My workplace has serviced one HP and three Compaqs this week. The processor fan in the HP broke, one of the Compaqs had a dead power supply, another had overheating problems due to a truckload of thermal paste having been applied at the factory, and the last had its processor and motherboard fried due to a bad power supply.
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 12:47:55
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Originally posted by ChiefRocka:I would suggest either buying a new prebuilt system (and upgrading it if necessary, like adding a hard drive) or building one from scratch with the help of a site like Newegg (I love Newegg). Both courses of action can easily be done for under $1500.
Where else can you get a Six Core processor at 3.7GHz for less then $200. Compare this to Intel's cheapest Six Core, and I say good day sir!
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 14:40:03
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Originally posted by ChiefRocka:I would suggest either buying a new prebuilt system (and upgrading it if necessary, like adding a hard drive) or building one from scratch with the help of a site like Newegg (I love Newegg). Both courses of action can easily be done for under $1500.
Where else can you get a Six Core processor at 3.7GHz for less then $200. Compare this to Intel's cheapest Six Core, and I say good day sir!
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Now if only their Linux graphics drivers weren't so crappy. :P
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Posted - 2011/03/11 : 18:43:10
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
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Originally posted by ChiefRocka:I would suggest either buying a new prebuilt system (and upgrading it if necessary, like adding a hard drive) or building one from scratch with the help of a site like Newegg (I love Newegg). Both courses of action can easily be done for under $1500.
Where else can you get a Six Core processor at 3.7GHz for less then $200. Compare this to Intel's cheapest Six Core, and I say good day sir!
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Now if only their Linux graphics drivers weren't so crappy. :P
If they went more open sourced like NVIDIA then I'd be in good water! Have to resort to using NVIDIA for my linux machines.
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