Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,242 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 11:39:31
having fun is one thing, but completly ruining the track by unsyncing everything, no...
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Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:00:51
quote:Originally posted by Hard2Get:
You're right. It is indeed funny just how bad that tune is.
Hence why it is called Rubish lol
The thing alot people dont understand about Gabber is, back in 1992 when this tune first came out, people where at the raves in Rotterdam (Parkzicht) and off their heads on drugs and as the night progressed, the tracks got more stomping, this tune, when dropped at the right time would have got the dance floor rocking! I mean you watch a youtube vid, think 'thats shit' and then assume it was a dud but its that very attitude which made this tune an enjoyable listen in the Parkzitch set I downloaded (yes, ripped from tape) and this is how Gabber started.
Compare this to Nu Style Gabber, if modern Gabber was plaied back then chances are people would have thought there was something wrong with the sound system or something. Gabber has to catch you in the right mood, the right frame of mind. Those who don't understand would have thought it was shit so naming a tune 'Rubbish' was the Dutch way of sticking their fingers up at the mainstream.
Now 20 years on it is saddening to think people would slag off these early tunes just because they don't understand them. I don't hear anyonr slagging off the big anthems such as SL2 on a Ragga Tip or Awesome 3 don't go yet those outside of the Rave Scene would have thought the same as well.
My verdict: This tune is Hardcore and urinates all over that modern Clubland shite
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:14:04
Smoogie there are loads of old skool gabber names on the lineup for the next Masters of Hardcore in the Netherlands, you should go.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:17:11
quote:Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Smoogie there are loads of old skool gabber names on the lineup for the next Masters of Hardcore in the Netherlands, you should go.
I would but im pretty busy at the moment so I doubt I would have time for it lol But I would love it if we had some Old Skool Gabber in the UK but being from South England there is very little chance of that so I download all the live sets from back in the old days. Gabber was at its best between 1992-1997
NekoShuffle Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,480 posts Joined: Nov, 2009
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:24:42
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Smoogie there are loads of old skool gabber names on the lineup for the next Masters of Hardcore in the Netherlands, you should go.
I would but im pretty busy at the moment so I doubt I would have time for it lol But I would love it if we had some Old Skool Gabber in the UK but being from South England there is very little chance of that so I download all the live sets from back in the old days. Gabber was at its best between 1992-1997
Lenny Dee was at the Industrial Strength Records tour in Brighton...last year I think. There's definitely more interest going back into the gabber scene...it will get stronger IMO and that's when you'll start to see more old skool gabber rooms etc.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6,504 posts Joined: Mar, 2006
Posted - 2012/01/20 : 18:44:39
quote:Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Lenny Dee was at the Industrial Strength Records tour in Brighton...last year I think. There's definitely more interest going back into the gabber scene...it will get stronger IMO and that's when you'll start to see more old skool gabber rooms etc.
Like I said, hard kicks are starting to make a come back
djDMS Advanced Member
United Kingdom
10,304 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
572 hardcore releases
Posted - 2012/01/21 : 00:20:01
Going down well at a rave full of drugged up Dutchmen doesn't mean a thing. I was around when the tune came out and it sounded just as shit back then as it does now.
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Dys7 Advanced Member
United States
1,231 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/27 : 15:46:33
quote:Originally posted by Dante:
Gabber has always had distorted kicks?
Gabber doesn't have to have a distorted kick to be gabber, the kick just needs to be the main focus of the tune. Lots of old gabber tracks have really bouncy kicks.
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The above comment was likely written when I was *literally* 13, so please don't judge me too hard.
Lilark Average Member
United States
211 posts Joined: Nov, 2011
Posted - 2012/01/27 : 16:50:25
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:Originally posted by Dante:
Gabber has always had distorted kicks?
Gabber doesn't have to have a distorted kick to be gabber, the kick just needs to be the main focus of the tune. Lots of old gabber tracks have really bouncy kicks.
I think he meant Gabber in general, not that is HAS to have a distorted kick to be called Gabber.
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