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Connormgs
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  15:28:24  Show profile Send a private message
It seems like UK hardcore is only around in the UK/Australia, in the USA (especially my shitty state of Arkansas) there really aren't any scenes, none where I live. Is it getting to the point where it's going to fade away or is there some sort of hidden resurgence I'm not seeing?

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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  15:52:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Lorenzo.Tweakn's homepage
there's hardcore scenes everywhere in the US, Hixxy got booked in places recently like atlanta,nashville & LA.

s3rl just got done doing an american tour. he was in places like; LA, seattle, Minneapolis, nashville?

also SPIT did a summer tour of the east coast for like 3 months over the summer.

there's hardcore all over the place in america & a lot in canada.


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wong
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  16:38:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage
nowhere near dead

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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  16:48:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Josephson_Junction's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
(especially my shitty state of Arkansas)


What part of AR, exactly? I'm in Wal-Mart's main stronghold, Bentonville.

(Also, there is no hardcore scene here either, as far as I'm aware of.)


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Samination
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quote:
Originally posted by wong:
nowhere near dead



but still not expanded.


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MaidenV
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  17:56:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MaidenV's homepage
I'm about mostly sure thats always how it's been. In the US, hardcore has always been biggest on the coasts and it's always appealed to a small crowd. Even the US raves that have hardcore headliners are usually multi-genre. In some cases I've seen events that were 95% dubstep and house with 1 hardcore DJ and people still moaned that there was too much of "that gay happy hardcore stuff".

Living in the US, its easy to get discouraged and feel like no one actually likes hardcore. I myself live in Massachusetts, which I know has a hardcore scene championed by the likes of DJ Daft (although he's into trance now). I've never been to a rave in my state; none of my friends are interested in raving, much less hardcore music. All the raves I've attended (about 5) and DJed at (one) have been out of state and among people I'd met online.

Point is, hardcore is such a niche genre and the US is such a big place that its unrealistic to expect to have what the UK and Australia have. Even in those places (from what I gather) hardcore isnt something thats considered "cool".


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Elliott
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  19:15:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage
It's only ever one step away from dying.

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  19:31:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
Hardcore has always been virtually non-existent in the US. And like I've said before, if it didn't die within the last 5 years then it's not about to die now.



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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2012/10/30 :  22:43:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage
Well, Happy Hardcore and candy kids go hand-in-hand here in the States. The fewer candy kids you have, the fewer Happy Hardcore events you'll see. Also, Happy Hardcore wasn't a genre that was pushed for production here in the States, so that's another reason it's just not big here.

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Gisbo
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  00:03:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Gisbo's homepage
we need more raves, more appreciation , less bitching,
to be completely honest i think the music is great from everyone,
just need to be promoted more on a mass scale.
i still believe in the music, but a music style cant die unless it been given the big shot.
look at dubstep for instance given the big shot caned to **** and now it dieing out because people are sick to death of wobble wobble ding dong lol.


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Connormgs
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  00:59:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Connormgs's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
(especially my shitty state of Arkansas)


What part of AR, exactly? I'm in Wal-Mart's main stronghold, Bentonville.

(Also, there is no hardcore scene here either, as far as I'm aware of.)



Fayetteville, I played a hardcore set at Rogue on Dickson Street back in August.


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Josephson_Junction
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  01:12:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Josephson_Junction's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
(especially my shitty state of Arkansas)


What part of AR, exactly? I'm in Wal-Mart's main stronghold, Bentonville.

(Also, there is no hardcore scene here either, as far as I'm aware of.)



Fayetteville, I played a hardcore set at Rogue on Dickson Street back in August.



:D :D :D That's a 30-45 minute drive from here! I wish I hadn't missed your set! Are you doing any others in the future?

We have to meet up at some point.


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Connormgs
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  01:15:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Connormgs's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
quote:
Originally posted by Josephson_Junction:
quote:
Originally posted by Connormgs:
(especially my shitty state of Arkansas)


What part of AR, exactly? I'm in Wal-Mart's main stronghold, Bentonville.

(Also, there is no hardcore scene here either, as far as I'm aware of.)



Fayetteville, I played a hardcore set at Rogue on Dickson Street back in August.



:D :D :D That's a 30-45 minute drive from here! I wish I hadn't missed your set! Are you doing any others in the future?

We have to meet up at some point.



I was going to play in Tulsa last Friday but school got in the way. Not sure when I'll be getting booked again but I will eventually. There are a few hardcore DJs around in Fayetteville. I got some Technics 1200s/CDJ 1000s with monitors and a subwoofer, we should definitely hang out.


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  04:50:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
You haven't been around long enough to know that the US is pretty much the LAST place you should think when it comes to thinking about any electronic scenes and their growth or death. When compared to the rest of the world, the US is really made up mostly of followers and not leaders, and that's including djs and producers. There are a few exceptions of course.

Only a handful of leaders exist in the US when it comes to UK Hardcore & Gabber. And usually these leaders are also the ones who run the entire hardcore scene in their area. Electronic music fans in the US can be pretty flaky, they get bored of the current stuff easily and are always looking for that new edge.

We're definitely not going to have a hardcore scene as united as they have in the UK. Denver once had a huge hardcore scene, but as far as I know it no longer exists. Here in Houston it's unstable. We saw a lot of it last year (granted it was the same djs with the exception of appearances by Gammer and S3RL), this year not a lot of hardcore being played here. But when scenes die, others grow. So hardcore will never really die, even in the US. It will always have its fans. The hardcore scenes just happen to be concentrated in certain areas.


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Posted - 2012/10/31 :  08:25:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Archefluxx's homepage
It'll survive - I'm certain. There are some melodic producers left, and even if there weren't, another couple of years and the WHOLE EDM music scene will sing from filth to cheesy melodic stuff. Its how it works apparently. A Luna-C theory lol

Right now myself and other people feel like we produce music against the current to keep melodic stuff alive. It's gotten boring. May as well wait for the tide to turn, because at some point it will. Hopefully it'll turn and leave dead-weight like Breeze far behind.

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Edited by - Archefluxx on 2012/10/31 08:27:02
Ken Masters
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quote:
Originally posted by Gisbo:
we need more raves, more appreciation , less bitching,
to be completely honest i think the music is great from everyone,
just need to be promoted more on a mass scale.
i still believe in the music, but a music style cant die unless it been given the big shot.
look at dubstep for instance given the big shot caned to **** and now it dieing out because people are sick to death of wobble wobble ding dong lol.





The thing is though, dubstep was destined to die eventually. Its not musical enough & there's only so much that can be done to people move on.

Hardcore however is a winning formula & should stand the test of time for a while yet. It might not be the sound that everyone loves but the formula basically stays the same.


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