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Samination
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Posted - 2019/08/11 :  07:13:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Yea, I noticed that some of the older tracks on the sharkey album were vinylrips, and like Triq said, some CDs (like the HTID ones) have vinyl rips on them, so my question was if the React Test 5 also was one. And with your sample comparison, I can't hear any audioable clicks in the middle section (the part after the intro).

and now I at least know that she doesn't pronounce the k in sky sometimes, and not a fault in my own vinyl rip :P


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Posted - 2019/08/13 :  12:43:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
React Test Five arrived, the verison of Rainbow Islands on it is definately a digital version as oppossed to a vinylrip - and the quality is much better so I've passed it on to CdJay so the completionists will get it! So don't fret about buying it separatedly if you are a completionist! :)


though I must say the rest of the compilation (React Test Five) is really good, think I'm going to pick up the others too.




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Posted - 2019/08/13 :  13:03:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
Think I've got a couple, might have to dig them out

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hashieb2k19
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Posted - 2019/08/24 :  21:34:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit hashieb2k19's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
React Test Five arrived, the verison of Rainbow Islands on it is definately a digital version as oppossed to a vinylrip - and the quality is much better so I've passed it on to CdJay so the completionists will get it! So don't fret about buying it separatedly if you are a completionist! :)


though I must say the rest of the compilation (React Test Five) is really good, think I'm going to pick up the others too.






Told ya, couldve uploaded it in wav of flac to you for zilch :P


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Posted - 2019/08/24 :  23:51:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
No good, as I wanted the cd plus the rest of the tracks. But mostly the CD as I'm an avid collector of cds. =) But thank you for the offer anyway!

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Posted - 2019/10/03 :  02:53:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Coolgamer's homepage  Reply with quote
There's a really bad error at 3:23 on "Time After Time" from batch 2.



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Posted - 2019/10/03 :  22:12:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Weakness's homepage  Reply with quote
Any news on the fixed files and the Bonkers01 version of Toytown? (Hixxy still had it, right?)



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Edited by - Weakness on 2019/10/03 22:13:38
Samination
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Posted - 2019/10/04 :  04:37:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Considering Hixxy's harddrive crash (or was it only UFO's?), I highly doubt that Hixxy has anything left from before 2010. And I doubt we'll ever see anything new from this collection, other than a few tracks from the Bonkers label (not the albums)

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Posted - 2019/10/11 :  07:44:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Weakness's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Considering Hixxy's harddrive crash (or was it only UFO's?), I highly doubt that Hixxy has anything left from before 2010. And I doubt we'll ever see anything new from this collection, other than a few tracks from the Bonkers label (not the albums)


Oh, I see... that's unfortunate if he lost everything pre2010.


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Posted - 2019/11/12 :  14:27:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tenfold234's homepage  Reply with quote
My understanding is that Kevin Energy is hopefully filling in the gaps for CDJay regarding this collection because there is going to be a Nu Energy label release at some point and there was alot of Sharkey material on not just on Nu Energy but on the sub labels (Bonkerz, Kaotik etc..).

I could be wrong though


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Posted - 2019/11/13 :  13:00:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I thought Kevin ****ed off again? The short stint he had a couple of years ago didn't seem to amount to much

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Posted - 2019/11/13 :  13:15:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
I don?t think there will be anymore updates to this or any of the older bundles. From what I can tell these are never going to be finished. It looks like there have been some changes in how things are run.

They have been very quiet for a reason.

Then again I?m just speculating with the small amount of info and circumstantial evidence I have.


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quote:
Originally posted by MusicILove:
Then again I?m just speculating with the small amount of info and circumstantial evidence I have.



Like what?


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Posted - 2019/11/13 :  20:12:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
Well there is something I can't reveal but what's publicly visible I can say.

1 Vinylgroover batch 3 came with tracks with the beginnings cut off. One of those tracks is fixed and was given out on the anthologies. So if they have had the fixed track since May / June or whenever it was why not update the bundle. The Second track Rush Hour (Vinylgrover Remix) is pretty easy to fix without having to re-record the original DAT. I have personally done this with my copy.

2 On the Fade & Bananaman Anthology volume 2 Can Can you do it was on there but was not added to the Sharkey bundle or if they have they haven't said anything about it. At this point I feel even 1 track would make people happy.

3 It has been mentioned on Facebook or in the newsletter about a change in the shipping and support staff.

4 They got Hardcore Heaven 5 out quickly which signals a change in direction they have said since 2018 they weren't going to do pre orders but still continued to do them so what changed.

5 CDJay's silence. Since they got Hardcore Heaven 5 shipped quickly I would of thought he would of been on here talking about it. I would of personally thanked and congratulated him on this. I was shocked and very happy when the CD arrived.

6 Other things that I'm not 100% on so I don't want to speculate and get it wrong.

7 The lack of communication on Blu The Roof. it was finished a few months ago with a video of a disc going in to a Blu Ray player or that's what it looked like to me. So why no word in the latest news letter, And why hasn't it shipped.

8 This one is a question I have had throughout these bundles is how do they handle the finances
Let's use a theoretical situation to explain my question.

Let's say 100 people brought the Sharkey bundle when batch 1 was out HU get 50% the rest gets distributed to the labels and artists.

Now let's say they add batch 2 to the Sharkey bundle the artists & labels already got paid for the first batch so how do the second artists and labels get paid then a third batch comes out. The same question arises.

In the case of the Sharkey bundle they have it on the store now but I can't imagine it has sold that many since going on the store.

So unless they are paying royalties out of their own profits how can they pay these artists and labels for the first 100 people to get the tracks when that was delt with years ago. Also then baring in mind every new person that buys it has to pay royalties of the same amount to the artists and labels in batch 1, 2 and 3.

It also doesn't make business sense for them to be adding tracks to the bundles spending their time. Obtaining the tracks, Licensing them, Mastering them, Labelling them, Uploading them to the store. their time costs money.

I think the bundle is what it is and it will most likely never change unless Sharkey becomes really popular for some reason.

They might have some fancy way of paying the artists that means all what I have just said is irrelevant and I hope that is true as they originally promised every track and remix by and of Sharkey and they have yet to deliver.

Some tracks like the ones on CLSM's labels are obtainable from digital stores and so it's just the licensing to work out with those and they haven't done it. Perhaps CLSM won't license to them.

Either way I don't think it's viable to be putting a ton of time in to something that is only going to trickle money in. Especially when it appears the profit margin will get smaller with everything they add.

In the case of the Just Another Label bundle's where they are missing stuff to this day it makes no sense to spend time and money adding things to something that is not on sale anymore and might not ever come back.

In the case of the TNC bundles everything works out. They have everything before they put a price on it based on the amount of tracks in the bundle. Everyone knows what they are getting and the number won't change.

If you have read this far here is a little reward for you (https://music.apple.com/gb/album/the-future-of-hardcore-finale/1330211545) It's only ?7.99.

I'm not trying to Diss HU. I really do feel for them in a lot of cases they have been treated unfairly but in some cases they haven't helped themselves. I feel they deserve financial compensation for all of the work they put in which is why I don't think they will be adding to these. They would only eat in to their own profits. While I would love to have the missing items I don't feel the current model would deliver.

As for a solution this one might not be popular but perhaps they could add a second part to this and say for ?50 you can get the rest of the collection and they could use the money from that to obtain the extra tracks and pay the royalties for them. This would be an option for those that want it. For those that are happy with what they have got they can stick where they are.

This is just an idea and not anything official I know nothing of the status of what's going on as far as these bundles go I'm just guessing. Putting 2 and 2 together and getting 247.

Again I'm not dissing HU I'm trying to see things from their point of view. This might all be rubbish in which case fine ignore me. I don't want any backlash from this but I feel that people have payed for something and it hasn't been delivered. There hasn't been any updates about the bundles in months. e.g Samination and the Pleasure & pain remixes I'm sure it was said they had them and were going to upload them 1 weekend that never happened.

I feel for HU and the awful position they have been left in but I also feel for the buyers who wanted certain tracks and thought this was the way to get them. Years of searching and this comes along. The answer to their prayers and then what they wanted never happens.

Everybody loses in this case.


That's my take on it all and the reasons I don't think the bundles will get updates.

Welcome to my brain (Perhaps this is why I don't sleep much. My brain is always going, always trying to figure things out)

HA HA the website preview button won't work.

This is all Speculation from my brain.


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Edited by - MusicILove on 2019/11/13 20:18:40
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Posted - 2019/11/13 :  20:20:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MusicILove's homepage  Reply with quote
Please don't hate me HU people.

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