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Elipton
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 Posted - 2013/11/12 : 16:15:51
I've been assigned a University brief whereby I have to master a single topic and display it in a creative solution. For this I need to collect primary research!
Could you describe what Freeform means to you?
Kevin Energy described Freeform as a state of mind, a movement against the grain. Do you see it this way too?
Sharkey and various other artists have depicted the slightly darker-than-normal genre in a wacky and crazy way (Munted and ILBH have a rubber duck theme going on).
The music is quite distinct and has certain characteristics that define it, so is it really as free as the name suggests?
The more discussion, the more it helps, and it'd be nice to stimulate some chat about this genre. :)
Thoughts?
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 16:27:36
well clearly the name isn't the best way to describe the genre, because freeform means "free of form," or something to that extent. By that logic, there is no definite traits from the genre, so it could be anything.
As far as what the genre means to me, it means a journey from the moment I press play to the moment the song ends. Although most freeform songs these days do have a climax that the producers have focused on, still freeform tracks are something I can enjoy from start to finish. With the lack of vocals it gives you the opportunity to focus more on the actual melodies involved, even individually, rather than find them secondary.
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TTE
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 16:29:56
I see it as a faster tempo polymorphic genre than is able to absorb themes, ideas and sounds and incorporate in such a way that it becomes it's own. That's not to say anything goes, it does have a common theme running through most tracks which defines it from other genres that may share elements and tempo. For example DarkPsy and Psy Inspired Freeform share elements and tempo, but there are clear differences in the structure, percussion and vibe.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 17:36:40
Absolute gold, thanks guys!
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Dyzphazia
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 17:48:28
Freeform to me is all about Contrast. Heavenly riffs, whether they be uplifting or melancholy/dark with contrasting tempos and sounds.
In practicality Freeform is an amorphous genre that takes its influences from everywhere else, other than the few common threads that link each Freeform track together - there is plenty of diversity. Its unfortunate that the only real thing it shares with Hardcore is the tempo, but its inexplicably linked to. Unless obviously, the track has elements that were taken from Hardcore, but that doesn't even account for 30% of the freeform genre (IMO)...
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Samination
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 18:28:54
And the old name for it, Trancecore doesn't exactly fit how it sounds now (or the stuff Tazz & Shanty made in 2000-2005).
The problem is Dyz, is that Freeform doesn't really take much from other genres other than Hard Dance or Hard Trance, and other close-to-Hardcore genres. So there's a few tracks that does take from other genres, but that happens to UK Hardcore aswell, so they are still exceptions.
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Simon
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 18:31:45
It's a bit like Keyser S?ze, it seems to exist in many forms, but in truth does exist at all? I'm really not sure.
Seriously that's pretty much the best way I can describe how freeform means to me at this moment in time.
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Vladel
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 19:15:01
Could you describe what Freeform means to you?
Ok i'll give it my best shot from my perspective (don't shoot me please)
In 1997 trancecore?/freeform was sometimes as hard as i wish some of the happy stuff was. You know when you hear a happy track that you wish just had a harder kick? I loved the harder and bouncier stuff that was around but wasn't overly keen on the sleepy stuff. After the early 2000's i liked freeform for its aforementioned heavenly breakdowns and euphoric sounds that set it aside from the UK hardcore of the time. That hard element with big kicks also existed and from 2006 onwards, freeform was truely awesome for its wide array of ideas and sounds.
To me it meant something different and interesting, sometimes hard and sometimes euphoric. The problem is that around 2011 and onwards it went down the toilet when the euphoria went and we were just left with the dark twisty stuff that does nothing for me. I listen to freeform now and i'm just bored.
The only thing i have liked recently that is remotely freeformish was the album by At peace which kicked a lot of arse.
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Dyzphazia
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 19:21:54
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Originally posted by Samination:
The problem is Dyz, is that Freeform doesn't really take much from other genres other than Hard Dance or Hard Trance, and other close-to-Hardcore genres. So there's a few tracks that does take from other genres, but that happens to UK Hardcore aswell, so they are still exceptions.
If you ignore the Psy/Goa influenced stuff that has been circulating since >2004 and the massive D&B/Breakbeat influences that most Freeform tunes have... ^_^ But yeah, Its very Hard Dance/Hard Trance influenced, and so is Hardcore.. But they're still two different ends of the spectrum.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2013/11/12 : 19:43:24
I listen to a wide contrast of music , Hard House , Breaks , Trance etc........ and loving DNB more and more each day but if I had to stick with one as my preference it would be freeform.
I first started going hardcore raves for the hardcore but after listening to DJ Energy and Sharkey I kind of just went for their sets.
Then through Ush I met some really cool people , it just happened that Jordan Lost Soul was the room mate of two of them , I used to go round there all the time, one day I bought my external hard drive over and Jordan basically gave me his entire music collection , it was amazing , Hybridize , FINRG , NU Energy, Electronica Exposed, Stompin Choonz, some Twisted Freq I could go on , after listening to the whole collection I was pretty much turned to Freeform for life, the diversity of the music, the rush it gave me when I was on Es the creativity it was all just so sick I love it to bits
To me it's more like Trance at super speed , less fairgroundy I hate to say it but more serious (not saying you can't have an amazing time listening to it or have fun to it) but really well thought out before its time space age awesomeness.
I love the fact the people are really going for it at the moment , eg. Smiling Corpse/Stamina/Rebuild/Watchtower/Hardcore Underground/Sinthetic/Substanced/Arkitech..........theres loads more
IMO nothing touches Freeform it's ****ing Amazing
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Posted - 2013/11/13 : 00:24:29
^^^ this 
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2013/11/13 : 00:53:11
Simply put, its Hardcore for creative & musically minded people. This may sound a bit harsh but the way I see it is it separates the narrow minded idiots from people who actually appreciate real talent & creative ideas.
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Alex BassJunkie
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Posted - 2013/11/13 : 03:32:30
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Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Simply put, its Hardcore for creative & musically minded people. This may sound a bit harsh but the way I see it is it separates the narrow minded idiots from people who actually appreciate real talent & creative ideas.
Yup i would agree with that, it takes a lot of creativity to make music with emotion or mood, wether it be uplifting or dark, i've always thought of it as a Psy/Hard Trance/Acid Tech influenced sound that evokes a strong emotion and trance like state while listening.
And yep, only musically talented producers will excel at it, its more of an art than UK Hardcore, and 80% of UK Hardcore artists would struggle to make a really good freeform track due to the fact that a lot of them have no creativity or imagination. I'ts the real music in Hardcore, not some Hard kick 185 template with a generic Nexus lead running a god awful riff that has been made in 5 minutes by banging an empty head on a keyboard.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2013/11/13 : 04:33:31
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Originally posted by Alex BassJunkie:
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Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Simply put, its Hardcore for creative & musically minded people. This may sound a bit harsh but the way I see it is it separates the narrow minded idiots from people who actually appreciate real talent & creative ideas.
Yup i would agree with that, it takes a lot of creativity to make music with emotion or mood, wether it be uplifting or dark, i've always thought of it as a Psy/Hard Trance/Acid Tech influenced sound that evokes a strong emotion and trance like state while listening.
And yep, only musically talented producers will excel at it, its more of an art than UK Hardcore, and 80% of UK Hardcore artists would struggle to make a really good freeform track due to the fact that a lot of them have no creativity or imagination. I'ts the real music in Hardcore, not some Hard kick 185 template with a generic Nexus lead running a god awful riff that has been made in 5 minutes by banging an empty head on a keyboard.
OK off topic, but do you seriously live in Mexico now? or are you just visiting? You're from the UK right?
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 Posted - 2013/11/13 : 07:44:12
i asked this before in the 'other genres' section. if you cared to have a look at the old posts. but anyways, I think Freeform has evolved from a sound that was a bit acid and distorted at times to a sound that came out from the harder trancecore and nrg-trance elements that was more focused on speed and darkish trance sounds rather than the hard slow gabber kicks that Hardstyle evolved from. However, having said that, Freeform was often a Finnish NRG (Fi NRG). so what distinguishes it from Hardcore Gabber? i think it could best best described as Speed Trance with a Hardcore Dark feel to the melodies.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2013/11/13 : 13:32:38
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Originally posted by Alex BassJunkie:
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Masters:
Simply put, its Hardcore for creative & musically minded people. This may sound a bit harsh but the way I see it is it separates the narrow minded idiots from people who actually appreciate real talent & creative ideas.
I'ts the real music in Hardcore, not some Hard kick 185 template with a generic Nexus lead running a god awful riff that has been made in 5 minutes by banging an empty head on a keyboard.
I was trying to hold back a bit but yes, this, this exactly haha
Something else that's a stand out part of Freeform for me is the rhythm. You don't so much stomp or bounce to Freeform as you do flow or glide (if that makes sense). There's rhythms inside Freeform that aren't appreciated to the un-trained ear, same goes for real House & Techno music. If you don't dig deep into the music & only notice the obvious then your missing what it's all about, which to me is why a lot of people don't quite get Freeform, or real EDM in general, they want it on a plate.
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