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The Dopeman
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 Posted - 2014/07/27 : 21:53:45
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Originally posted by trippnface:
what some of the hardcore dj's are doing...just in no way can be construed as hardcore music... its mainstream big room house.. i cant even call it dance music. its exactly everything ive done my best to stay extremely far way from. i think its great we get upset talking over music ;). its more than just a casual occurance; it largely defines myself and life. il be damned if i stay quite as money hungry ****s ruin one of my last avenues of Dissociation while apparently considering us too stupid to know better or care. these shows are not free i have to pay them to spit in my face? **** that...
couldn't have put it any better 
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rafferty
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 08:41:01
I am not having a go at you guys, but hardcore sold out in 2000 when it changed from traditional Happy Hardcore to commercial top 40 Trance remixes. All that raverbaby Trance sound is just as commercial as the Bigroom House influences in Hardcore today.
In the 2000's Trance was as mainstream as Bigroom is now and all the UK Hardcore producers jumped on the Trance bandwagon. So your argument about Hardcore going commercial really does not make any sense.
What it is really about is not liking the evolution of Hardcore, is not about Hardcore going commercial. Actually UK Happy Hardcore took in House influences long before Trance even existed back in the 90s.
If UK Hardcore remixes of commercial pop Trance tracks which flooded the rave scene in the 2000's was not commercial, I don't know what is.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 09:33:56
Hardcore has always been commercial.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 09:44:18
Nothing to do with being commercial, it's the desperation to follow EVERY fad/trend that i don't get.
Taking influences from other genres is fine, that happens everywhere. But assuming that copying another style almost note for note in the hope that it'll work is lazy and patronising.
Yes, some ravers will lap any old shit up because the big names churn it out. Not this one.
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brodster
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 13:51:43
Can you imagine if every hardcore producer started banging out 170 bpm big room house tracks, yeah yikes. At least the trance stuff had some sort of melody.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 14:45:51
Correct. The main issue here is the mind numbingly boring drops. The scene has since day one relied on taking inspiration (okay, and blatantly copying) from other styles, but usually focused on increasing the energy to what hardcore is about. You can't simply make a track of a certain style, whack the BPM up and pass it off as hardcore. Fair enough it does work in some cases but not with this... Big room house, is it called that?
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 15:21:29
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
not with this... Big room house, is it called that?
lol when i first heard of "big room house" on fb i thought they were talking about a house with a big room :p weird name to call a music genre imo
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 17:28:13
It sounds like it should have big kicks and be euphoric and cheesy.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 20:35:40
Where's the track gone??!
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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 20:44:20
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Where's the track gone??!
Haha! Never seen a track get so bad reception it got taken down. 
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 21:19:45
I never even got to hear it.. was it really so bad?
edit: wow it's actually nowhere to be seen. Has anyone got any ideas where I can hear it? Sounds hilarious!
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Edited by - Elipton on 2014/07/28 21:24:48 |
_Jay_
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 21:24:41
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Originally posted by Elipton:
I never even got to hear it.. was it really so bad?
Yeah it was man.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 21:28:55
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
He could have made it so much better. Such a huge cop out, after that build up, I fucking knew it was gonna go minimal but that was just ridiculous. I'd expect much better from Styles. Atrocious remix.
I don't even know if 'Gammmer' could fix it.
On the plus side I didn't see the word 'sick' used in the comments yet.
Of course Gammmer could fix it, Gammmer could fix anything
Did anyone nab a copy of it through a soundcloud downloader or anything? Perhaps on their app cache
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Edited by - Elipton on 2014/07/28 21:31:19 |
Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 21:44:35
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Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
He could have made it so much better. Such a huge cop out, after that build up, I fucking knew it was gonna go minimal but that was just ridiculous. I'd expect much better from Styles. Atrocious remix.
I don't even know if 'Gammmer' could fix it.
On the plus side I didn't see the word 'sick' used in the comments yet.
Of course Gammmer could fix it, Gammmer could fix anything
Did anyone nab a copy of it through a soundcloud downloader or anything? Perhaps on their app cache
I'm not sure why anyone would want to, really, but check this:
Triq made it to piss of Thumpa or something, the drop is from Styles' remix - he might well still have the whole thing.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/07/28 : 21:48:10
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
He could have made it so much better. Such a huge cop out, after that build up, I fucking knew it was gonna go minimal but that was just ridiculous. I'd expect much better from Styles. Atrocious remix.
I don't even know if 'Gammmer' could fix it.
On the plus side I didn't see the word 'sick' used in the comments yet.
Of course Gammmer could fix it, Gammmer could fix anything
Did anyone nab a copy of it through a soundcloud downloader or anything? Perhaps on their app cache
I'm not sure why anyone would want to, really, but check this:
Triq made it to piss of Thumpa or something, the drop is from Styles' remix - he might well still have the whole thing.
I don't even..
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