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Squad-E losing the plot again

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Elipton
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Posted - 2015/02/23 :  21:25:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
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it actually makes me cringe ; laugh; and turn it immediately the **** off and play a real hardcore song that doesn't sound like commercial garbage trainwreck

ya...i rest my case
https://soundcloud.com/djgammer/strur


Noisestorm - Breakdown VIP is a nice Hardcore track too... Oh umm

Pigface is a very clever and well produced track. I don't care that it's not Hardcore, it's great to hear Gammer get a bit silly and produce what he enjoys. Passion is very telling in music, and if you've got passion, it shows in the music and I think pigface is a good example of that. Whether or not Gammers drumstep track is entirely original, who knows. He's hardly blown the baby out of the bathwater.

My enthusiasm for Hardcore is dented when I hear the kind of stuff some labels are still releasing. Every label has it's poor tunes it seems, but there are plenty I've enjoyed this year so far. FSHV1 is a fantastic compilation from various labels. Japan is just a swelling Zerg nest of awesome. Stamina's new compilation has some very cool tunes on there that are a throwback to the style that had me hooked to this genre.

Things are looking up. Whether or not we'll see anything good from the now wavering top-tier? I hope so. FW was a flop, no doubt - but TWR might bring some good music. After all, they know themselves that they've got some redeeming to do - otherwise the label would be called "Together We're Still Here"..

I'm trying to be optimistic ;)


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Edited by - Elipton on 2015/02/23 21:27:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:
it actually makes me cringe ; laugh; and turn it immediately the **** off and play a real hardcore song that doesn't sound like commercial garbage trainwreck

ya...i rest my case
https://soundcloud.com/djgammer/strur


Noisestorm - Breakdown VIP is a nice Hardcore track too... Oh umm

Pigface is a very clever and well produced track. I don't care that it's not Hardcore, it's great to hear Gammer get a bit silly and produce what he enjoys. Passion is very telling in music, and if you've got passion, it shows in the music and I think pigface is a good example of that. Whether or not Gammers drumstep track is entirely original, who knows. He's hardly blown the baby out of the bathwater.

My enthusiasm for Hardcore is dented when I hear the kind of stuff some labels are still releasing. Every label has it's poor tunes it seems, but there are plenty I've enjoyed this year so far. FSHV1 is a fantastic compilation from various labels. Japan is just a swelling Zerg nest of awesome. Stamina's new compilation has some very cool tunes on there that are a throwback to the style that had me hooked to this genre.

Things are looking up. Whether or not we'll see anything good from the now wavering top-tier? I hope so. FW was a flop, no doubt - but TWR might bring some good music. After all, they know themselves that they've got some redeeming to do - otherwise the label would be called "Together We're Still Here"..

I'm trying to be optimistic ;)



just checked that track out def not a fan ;p

gammer is definitely welcome to pursue his passions and i think it is great for him.... but certainly dont expect hardcore fans to even mildly enjoy it. could not be farther from what i want to hear or have myself associated with . him & that crew seem to be really big on this hyphy/trap/ rap-ish fusion..whatever. for example i dont know who the **** hudson mohawk is or how he is relevant but gammer is constantly referencing him and appears to idolize him or something... that kanye west swag yolo.... straight what the ****//keep out of rave please!

FSHV1 was amazing and i wish it got way way more publicity and acknowledged over some of the dumb shit being produced now. the "top tier" should take a dive honestly. sick of seeing darren styles and gammer get booked over and over just because they are gammer and styles.. **** i could care less. bring the people producing hardcore; there are soooo many producers actual taking it seriously . quite clear from those comments on soundcloud gammer is just getting his ego stroked; and will produce whatever gets him there the fastest. and then look and what those other people are listening too....not even hardcore lol. all the signs keep pointing in the same direction ..

im optimistic as well; tons of stuff going strong; i just dont personally feel like re-con/gammer/whatever have much to offer currently. the fact that hardcore fans think their current stuff is good is pretty confusing...most people if you notice who like it are not hardcore fans; telling no? il take squad e drunk on crack or whatever over their shit for sure; as long as he can still spin. i just want to hear hardcore for hardcore fans.







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latininxtc
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Posted - 2015/02/24 :  03:20:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Elipton:

I'm trying to be optimistic ;)



That's fine but you don't have to lie to do it! ;)

But I don't mind Pigface it is certainly creative and good for Gammer for doing what he likes. It's not something I see myself going out of my way to listen to, and I don't really consider it hardcore, but that doesn't take away from it being well-produced.

It is a shame that "new" Futureworld ended up being a flop as it started out really well, regardless of the stupid idea of having each release be one original track, a half-assed remix to that track and a radio edit that no one asked for. But I'm with Olly that I'm hopeful TWR will be what "new" Futureworld promised to be.


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Posted - 2015/02/25 :  00:48:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
well just for shits and giggles; i did some PI work on "Hudson Mohawke"

... and what do you know. he is a TRAP PRODUCER signed to KANYE WEST'S label

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

had no idea. this all makes so much sense now. i always thought that kanye west shit was a joke/. **** kanye west. the person and the music. gammer fell off yo. super disrespect dropping that shit to ravers ; LET ALONE HARDCORE ravers.

revel in the glory days..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPB1t_6sN8



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Posted - 2015/02/25 :  13:18:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mansy's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by trippnface:
revel in the glory days..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPB1t_6sN8



Rolling back the years with that one. What a track!!!


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Posted - 2015/02/25 :  14:43:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit oxis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
well just for shits and giggles; i did some PI work on "Hudson Mohawke"

... and what do you know. he is a TRAP PRODUCER signed to KANYE WEST'S label

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

had no idea. this all makes so much sense now. i always thought that kanye west shit was a joke/. **** kanye west. the person and the music. gammer fell off yo. super disrespect dropping that shit to ravers ; LET ALONE HARDCORE ravers.

revel in the glory days..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPB1t_6sN8





i think the artist is mostly not that important as long as the music is good, but thats a conversation that would derail the thread...


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Edited by - oxis on 2015/02/25 15:17:45
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Posted - 2015/02/25 :  17:35:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
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but thats a conversation that would derail the thread...


Christ alive, we can't let that happen.


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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by oxis:
but thats a conversation that would derail the thread...


Christ alive, we can't let that happen.




That's one of the things I love about hhc.com. Click on a thread about a random tune and find everyone talking about hermaphrodite penguins from outer space.

Talking about which.....


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Haemaphrodites from outer space aren't as good as they were ten years ago...

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Haemaphrodites from outer space aren't as good as they were ten years ago...



This. I'd say they've been in a steady decline since around 2009. Not even sure they're hermaphrodites anymore.


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Posted - 2015/03/02 :  16:22:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elliott's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by skarr:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
Squad-E's recent stuff is proper hardcore. Big up that man. Long may it continue.

No, I'm not joking. In a scene where everyone is producing complete shite, it's refreshing to hear him coming out with these '08-era tracks.

Right now I'll take Squad-E over any of the FW/TWR bunch.



are u having a ****,ing laugh??? your sayin squad e is making better tunes than darren styles, gammer n re con ect ect,? no chance ..........



This. Squad-e doesn't come remotely close to the likes of styles, re-con etc.

Refreshing to hear 08 style tracks?? It's boring - 2008 was 7 years ago.


Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Those guys are all producing complete shite. Squad-E is producing pretty decent 08 era hardcore and wins by default all day long for me.

I make no secret of hating modern hardcore and wanting a return to the mid 00s.


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Originally posted by Elliott:
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Those guys are all producing complete shite. Squad-E is producing pretty decent 08 era hardcore and wins by default all day long for me.

I make no secret of hating modern hardcore and wanting a return to the mid 00s.



As alot of people may agree on the modern style isnt as good. A change was needed to stop the music going stale. Its like people saying i hate the 00's style of hardcore and wanting it to return to the 90's


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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
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Originally posted by skarr:
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Originally posted by Elliott:
Squad-E's recent stuff is proper hardcore. Big up that man. Long may it continue.

No, I'm not joking. In a scene where everyone is producing complete shite, it's refreshing to hear him coming out with these '08-era tracks.

Right now I'll take Squad-E over any of the FW/TWR bunch.



are u having a ****,ing laugh??? your sayin squad e is making better tunes than darren styles, gammer n re con ect ect,? no chance ..........



This. Squad-e doesn't come remotely close to the likes of styles, re-con etc.

Refreshing to hear 08 style tracks?? It's boring - 2008 was 7 years ago.


Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Those guys are all producing complete shite. Squad-E is producing pretty decent 08 era hardcore and wins by default all day long for me.

I make no secret of hating modern hardcore and wanting a return to the mid 00s.



Each to their own but I really can't understand that mentality. Don't get me wrong I love that era too (03-07 to be precise) but those days are in the past and the tunes sound really dated now. I'll happily listen to tunes from those days and raise a smile but I don't want to hear any new tunes in that style, especially when their done by a bang average producer such as squad-e. The legends of those days have moved on and actually developed as producers, Squad-e on the other hand is as stale as a year old loaf of bread.



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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:but I don't want to hear any new tunes in that style, especially when their done by a bang average producer such as squad-e. The legends of those days have moved on




if you enjoyed them before, why not now ?


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Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:but I don't want to hear any new tunes in that style, especially when their done by a bang average producer such as squad-e. The legends of those days have moved on




if you enjoyed them before, why not now ?



Because that sound was done to death at the time, especially by Squad-e who as I've already said on this thread is one of the most one dimensional producers in hardcore. It speaks volumes that he's returned to the only style that brought him moderate success - because that is all he has in his locker.

I'd only ever listen to older tunes for the nostalgia factor - I associate a lot of good memories with older tunes. But I'm more than happy with my current taste in music and I like where a lot of it is going.


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