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Seany
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 Posted - 2003/05/05 : 14:33:27
I listen to happy hardcore n hardcore obviously n this website is a happy hardcore website ,but basicly mos of the discussions is hardcore stuff ,im failing to recognize wot the difference is ,for examples ,is children of the night" a happy hardcore tune and shooting star" i think they are ,does anyone agree with me ,but i jus bought bonkers X today n its basicly all hardcore stuff n has a couple of tunes that deja vu old tunes like sy & unkown-tekno harmony 2003 ,and ham-kinda funky ,in my own way ,i prefer happy hardcore & old skool ,if u hav heard bonkers 3 ,the 1st song on dougals mix ,would u call that old skool or happy hardcore ? ,i dont really like stuff like dj neophyte etc ,but wot do you people hav to say about the direction our scene is heading,iv lost my point im trying to make ,but wot do u people prefer?
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virus
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Posted - 2003/05/05 : 18:30:57
that first post is exremely hard to read.. is it one sentence?
i get the idea of what you are trying to say, but its still difficult.
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CDJay
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 Posted - 2003/05/05 : 20:35:26
I'm thinking that you might be out of luck. the hardcore scene in 2003 is so desperate to disassociate itself with the cheesier tracks from yesteryear that it's in danger of losing what has kept it going all along.
That is "hard" and "happy" in varying measures.
Production standards and variety are at an all time high ( at least in recent terms ) but something is missing, and I'm not convinced that the "key" players in the scene have noticed and/or care.
2003 is make or break, despite myself I remain optimistic.......
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silver
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Posted - 2003/05/05 : 21:28:49
No producers make "Happy" Hardcore anymore cause it does not sell... You have to give the market what it wants and not just keep making tunes that don't sell.
I like the way hardcore is progressing, it is allowing for a wider audience but that is just my thoughts on the matter, if you really like "Happy" hardcore I recommend you start producing it :)
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Broken
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Posted - 2003/05/05 : 23:09:04
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Originally posted by silver:
No producers make "Happy" Hardcore anymore cause it does not sell... You have to give the market what it wants and not just keep making tunes that don't sell.
No offense, but I think that's a horrible philosophy. The way I see it, all hardcore styles evolved as tangents off of what was "commercially acceptable." Nothing original or groundbreaking can come from catering to a target audience... the best music is music that people are drawn to... music that is uncompromising. Granted, it's practically impossible for any style to be truly "underground" in this day and age, but that doesn't mean that they have to sell out. I think we need more producers who do it strictly for the love of it and don't give a flying **** about making a living off it. I mean seriously, why does everyone who starts producing have this image in their head of becoming famous and supporting themselves with a music that is supposedly not mainstream and commercial?
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Comet
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Posted - 2003/05/05 : 23:57:58
To be honest, I am REALLY enjoying the Raver Baby sound right now. Out of all artists now, I'm loving Breeze, Styles, Hixxy, Dowster, Uprise, Dougal, Gammer, and UFO.
I used to really like Scott Brown's style, but it drastically changed over the past year. I loved his tunes like, Enlightened, Roll the Track, Lift, etc. Now his style is alot harder now.
Alot of people really hate how hardcore is evolving. I say, stick with what you like, don't insult others for what they like, or produce yourself.
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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 01:19:25
Ï like the new style a lot and i think its still happy hardcore. Have a listen in holland and you will know what hardcore is. And i dont like the harder style. I allso think its a shame that scott brown has gone to a far harder style coz i really used to loove all the evo stuff.
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Broken
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 05:18:19
Holland is NOT hardcore. Maybe at one time, but not anymore.
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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 05:36:42
Well to be honest i dont really keep up to date with all the stuff that gets played here coz i dont like it. Its to gabberish for me.
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Dave Murray
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 05:47:55
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Hoekzema:
I allso think its a shame that scott brown has gone to a far harder style coz i really used to loove all the evo stuff.
Dj Frankus
Scott Browns EVO stuff aint hard, fair enough he has a few *harder* choons on the flip but cmon they aint hard.Unless ur more of a raver baby?
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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 05:56:22
I pretty much live on a collection of raver baby, evolution and quosh mate. I just like the SOFTER stuff. Im an old force & styles fan. bit of dougal on the decks. Thats my style
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Dave Murray
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 06:03:53
Yeah same ere, but *each to there own*.
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 07:30:35
HHC is like "Cheese", it comes in many flavours...
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CDJay
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 07:39:12
"No producers make "Happy" Hardcore anymore cause it does not sell..."
Indeed, "Your Shining" must have been the worst selling tune in recent times, heh.
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Exhile
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 07:56:34
people seem to call that trance core. To be honest i think its the new happy hardcore. You definately cant compare it to the new hardcore gabber style
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Broken
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Posted - 2003/05/06 : 08:25:28
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Hoekzema:
people seem to call that trance core. To be honest i think its the new happy hardcore. You definately cant compare it to the new hardcore gabber style
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The term I hear a lot is Freeform, and you're right, it is nothing like "nu style gabber" <---which is slow, repetitive rubbish.
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