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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2018/07/29 :  17:36:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Si Thompson:
I shall be featuring some of the tracks in one of my mixes soon.



Tune in to my show on www.kniteforceradio.com on Friday nights from 8-10pm and you can hear some there, too!


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The Rave Generation
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Posted - 2018/07/29 :  20:19:02  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Rave Generation's homepage  Reply with quote
Given it multiple listens today and have come to the conclusion that it reeks of quality 😄 It's a coherent album with its own feel and sound - the scene needs more of this 👍



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Samination
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  12:51:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Unless someone puts up a mix first, I'll have to tune into Cap's show.

Although I can see that there is a slight novelty in releasing stuff like this. It will never be good in the long run


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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  15:55:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Si Thompson's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Unless someone puts up a mix first, I'll have to tune into Cap's show.

Although I can see that there is a slight novelty in releasing stuff like this. It will never be good in the long run







You don't half talk some shite on here. I swear you post for the sake of posting. Why are you still in this thread? You've made it quite clear that anything before 1996 is beyond your comprehension, and that it isn't to your taste either. So your opinion on this isn't credible.

I think you'll find that 1991-1995 stuff is actually really popular at the moment. Plenty of Old Skool pages out there on Facebook, and there are sites like MPS, 7th Storey Projects and Ninety Two Retro that are selling out of new and old stuff on vinyl. Producers are still ****in' with breakbeats. It's all good IMO. You can never have enough good music out there.


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Triquatra
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  16:25:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
I don't think he was talking about the genre...I think he was talking about the selling model.

I could be wrong though.




I had a listen when it was played on lazorfm, it sounded absolutely awesome, very cool for those who could afford it!


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Samination
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:23:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
Well, I mostly wanted to just reply at what The Rave Generation said, depending on if he ment the album itself, or the sales model.

And I genially want to hear how the final product ended up.

I won't say that I haven't acted like a douche in the thread, because I have. But I still believe this model wont be much better than Gammer slagging everyone off


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Edited by - Samination on 2018/07/30 17:28:10
trippnface
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:26:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
it's pretty damn good, really really enjoy atleast half the tracks, the other half are good but don't quite nail me like I want. It's def a trip to see the difference between what I was expecting vs what we got. Not a bad thing but I was certainly off. Really mellow jazzy rnb kind of vibes over harder/wacky happy piano sounds.

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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:27:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
I don't think he was talking about the genre...I think he was talking about the selling model.

I could be wrong though.

I had a listen when it was played on lazorfm, it sounded absolutely awesome, very cool for those who could afford it!


You should have grouped in with people man!
It is brilliant collection, exactly the style I love.


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Triquatra
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:43:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
You should have grouped in with people man!
It is brilliant collection, exactly the style I love.




Wasn't aware that was an option/I didn't realise they were cool with people doing that. lol



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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:51:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
You should have grouped in with people man!
It is brilliant collection, exactly the style I love.



Wasn't aware that was an option/I didn't realise they were cool with people doing that. lol


Yeah totally, I mean it beats illegally filesharing it anyway.


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Triquatra
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  17:59:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
Hmmm. How exactly does that beat illegal file sharing it? The artist still only gets sales from 1 copy, but he/she has given it out to more than one person. The only person who profits from it is the original buyer.

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Edited by - Triquatra on 2018/07/30 18:00:02
The Rave Generation
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  19:13:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Rave Generation's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Well, I mostly wanted to just reply at what The Rave Generation said, depending on if he ment the album itself, or the sales model.



Ah, I was referring to the notion of original artists and producers putting out credible albums of new music. What I really like about this is how it feels like a proper album and not just a mish mash of different tunes thrown together.

That said, I don't have a problem with the business model either, although I can understand that the price is a barrier to many people. The way I can see it justified is that we're interested in a very niche style of music and therefore selling it at usual album price isn't financially viable. If they were going to sell 5000 copies then fair enough, but as they're only looking to sell 200 it has to come at a price. It's clear a lot of studio time has been spent getting this just right and it's the time that's being paid for.

That said I think it's a shame that it's only limited to 200 copies as its an album that deserves a wider audience. I paid full price but wouldn't have a problem if it was made available to more than 200 customers or even at a lower price. Plus there were enough extras to increase the value.


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GrahamC
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  19:16:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit GrahamC's homepage  Reply with quote
I was never going to spend ?150 on one album but I would have gone splitsies. Sadly, didn't know anybody else who was game :( Plus, you had to justify why you were splitting the cost which I thought was a bit off.

Plus by about March I would have been very panicky about where it was!

Never mind, people seem happier with this than the Ham album which is nice for them.


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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  19:46:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
Hmmm. How exactly does that beat illegal file sharing it? The artist still only gets sales from 1 copy, but he/she has given it out to more than one person. The only person who profits from it is the original buyer.



Yeah, but I mean, it's still better than illegal filesharing.


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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2018/07/30 :  21:00:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
Does anyone think we will see this kind of release again? I didnt back this one as its not my style but, despite the positive reviews the music has received on here, the project itself looks to have been a shambles.

Looking back to the start of this thread, they were promising a release before Christmas 2017 and payment was also upfront. What were the reasons for the lengthy delay?


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