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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  18:53:45  Show profile Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage
Are you a DJ?
Have you pissed off Archefluxx in the past?
Said or done something he didn't like?

If you can answer "Yes" to those questions then you're NO LONGER PERMITTED to use freely distributed, copyright-free Archefluxx tracks in your mixes!



Following on from the "Gammer - Nostalgia" drama, Archefluxx decided he would bother me on twitter in an attempt to PROVE ME WRONG. After throwing his toys out of the pram and acting like a child, I decided I'd had enough and called him out for being childish; to which he promptly claimed I was "no longer permitted" to use his tracks in my mixes and had to take them down.

If you have the patience/time, the full conversation can be read at http://www.twitter.com/NekoShuffle and http://www.twitter.com/archefluxx

This of course, sparks a lot of debate:

Are big name DJs who have pissed Archefluxx off also prohibited from playing his tracks?
Are forum DJs who have pissed Archefluxx off (Triq? Andy Influx? Just about everyone?)
Does Lane 3 belong to Archefluxx? Or does it belong to Spirit Wolf?
What about other collaborations?

Does Archefluxx wield this power over tracks released freely with no copyright on soundcloud?
Will he do the same to YOU?

As for me, until I see some proof showing that the tracks (at the time of the download) were not permitted to be used in DJ mixes, they're just words. But I thought I'd warn those of you who have also used his tracks in your mixes - all it takes is to say the wrong thing sometime in the future, and your mix may (Or may not) have to be pulled too. Is that a risk you want to take?

It certainly raises a lot of questions, thoughts?


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Dys7
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  19:34:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dys7's homepage
Im not touching this.

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DJ D-Luc-D
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  19:51:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ D-Luc-D's homepage
I thought that even if it's free, the owner's rights are still reserved?

Also, liking a person and liking that person's music are a different thing, so that's just unreasonable.


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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  20:03:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by DJ D-Luc-D:
I thought that even if it's free, the owner's rights are still reserved?

Also, liking a person and liking that person's music are a different thing, so that's just unreasonable.



Well, for starters, Soundcloud doesn't mention that, and it didn't mention that at the time of the download too, I did have a check through the copyright terms and conditions and I seem to be in the clear.

I used the tracks "Pikachu" and "Lane 3". "Pikachu" has samples from Pokemon/4Kids entertainment and arranges owned by GameFreak so he doesn't own the copyright for that track, so that isn't going down. Lane 3 is a collab with Spirit Wolf so that's a grey area too, not to mention that we have no idea as to whether the samples in the track are indeed owned by him/them.

I think this is just silly really, I didn't want to even be getting involved in any drama; but on the other hand, if it can happen to me then it can happen to anyone else so I think it's at least fair to warn people what they are potentially letting themselves in for when they make a mix with an Archefluxx track or want to make a CD compilation with his music on it.

Even if this ends with a hug and an apology I'm not going to be dealing with his music or collabs after this, I don't want to live in fear of my mixes being forced down just because he got into an internet argument or chose not to like something I said, it's all terribly infantile.


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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  20:22:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit scottyd2k9's homepage
such a BABA

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DJ D-Luc-D
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  20:37:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ D-Luc-D's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:




Lol, where do people find all these .gifs?


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quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
Im not touching this.



That's what she said


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DJ D-Luc-D
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  20:51:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ D-Luc-D's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
Im not touching this.



That's what she said



That wouldn't be a good thing if she said that


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Edited by - DJ D-Luc-D on 2012/04/12 20:53:06
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  21:04:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage
Oh Archefluxx you big bipolar baby. You never cease to amuse me lol. Made a big deal and cried abuse about djs giving you hell when you used their songs for Zonkers, and now you're doing the same thing.

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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  21:55:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit cruelcore1's homepage
Now this is getting too far... Typical forum fight turning into personal quarrels.

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Edited by - cruelcore1 on 2012/04/12 21:57:07
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  22:30:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Shades's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by NekoShuffle:
Even if this ends with a hug and an apology I'm not going to be dealing with his music or collabs after this



isnt that what he wanted.....?

yay i like a happy ending



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Edited by - Shades on 2012/04/12 22:31:15
Dys7
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The battle of WilkyShuffle and Archesmoog, Part 1

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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  23:14:06  Show profile  Send a private message
My god twitter is a confusing peice of shit.



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NekoShuffle
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Posted - 2012/04/12 :  23:26:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit NekoShuffle's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Dys7:
The battle of WilkyShuffle and Archesmoog, Part 1



I don't even have any business being here really. Ever since the clubland argument, my passion for hardcore dropped substantially. I checked facebook one day and saw that someone had shared the Gammer track and thought 'Ooh I wonder what they think about this on hhc.com..'. I saw Archefluxx acting way out of line and thought I'd try the reasonable approach rather than the "you're an arsehole" etc. comments some people had made.

And now this unfolds? I tried to ignore all the Zonkers rumours about Archefluxx and make my own judgement but really this just completely confirms them. Even now I'm having trouble believing this isn't some kind of elaborate prank being pulled on me, and that people aren't actually this childish. "You're not allowed to play my records because you said something I didn't like" ? Have I missed something major in my absence?


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