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Jimmygoat
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Posted - 2003/10/26 :  08:58:07  Show profile View artist profile Send a private message  Visit Jimmygoat's homepage View the linked resource
I have further modified this since posting on a few other forums, time to make yourself heard, there is no reason for hard dance (which includes everything +140) not to be on radio 1, lets ave it!!

I was replying to another post when i wrote this bit below, I think if you came accross house music at a young age you would find 8 minute house tracks boring. Radio 1 is the only national station with dance music shows. If you find dance music through them you may well never know about the banging rushy exciting madness that happens beyond 140 bpm. This is wrong. More importantly it doesnt represent what is going on out there. Please take time to read my ramble below, bye.


i spent about an hour stood in a club in Cardiff on Friday (Time flies- James Zabeila was playing a 3 hour set) with a copy of g-core 2 (white label) which i had drawn a diagram on showing from 80-170 bpm with arrows pointing to shows starting with westwood and trevor nelson right up to fergie and the blank beyond that. I was explaining to Tom (deputy editor for Dj Mag) why radio 1 (of course it doesnt have to worry about advertising money where the mags do) should have at least one show to cover all the music it doesnt cater for and how it makes it worse to have 4 shows catering for 130-140 bpm.

Tasty at mass, 1800 people, Antiworld SE1 rammed, James (on sasha's agency) at time flies 300 people, yet most dance music coverage is about house....

Look at magazines with features, then flick through and their company has big adverts. This is the way it runs, its not about music. However radio 1 does not have this pressure, so being part of that and not representing other things is bad.

Here is my main point:
Dance music with a kick drum sells the same amount from 130 to 170 (yes hixxy's raver baby outsells loads of stuff Judge Jules puts out etc,). So even if that is only roughly speaking can you justify Seb, Fergie, Tong, Jules (8hours) for the zero (0) (nihil) amount of hours which have any specific show with a kick above 140.

Even looking just past 140 and EVEN ignoring the hardcore you have all the Tasty, Frantic, Heat, Antiworld etc with most dj's playing faster than radio 1's limit. With some of the biggest rooms dedicated to hardcore.

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Oli G
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Posted - 2003/10/26 :  09:46:54  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Oli G's homepage
read this on possibly 3/4 boards now
even the gurn crew cant really argue with this post (i know they hate us hardcore lot),

I think what radio 1 play is all about what they want to be cool, and what they want people to like, not what people actualy like.

i think a ****ing fair few people would tune in if a hardcore show was on, to be honest, itd be the only reason for me to listen to the radio, i dont think ive listened since 1998? and if so, its only to tune into the legend john peels show for somthing random :)


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Posted - 2003/10/26 :  09:59:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Simon's homepage
Yeah this is all so true, I don't listen to the radio anymore (like Oli probebly like 98 when I last actually tuned in a radio station). But why don't I listen to the radio?

that's the question.

well allthough being arsed is a major factor, and the crap humour of the dj's another!

The main reason is THEY DON'T PLAY WHAT I WANT TO HEAR!!!!

and I like ALL genres of music, and I mean ALL, and ALL genres of music are definatly not covered on any one radio station!

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Haeobogoblin
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Posted - 2003/10/26 :  12:22:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Haeobogoblin's homepage
heh.. . . i'll just post ere wot i posted on ush. .


humn, this is a very interesting discussion.

basically - this is how i see stuff at the moment -

hardcore is back, this is slowly being recognised by a cupple of mags i.e. mixmag, who had the issue with brisk's cd on the front, and now every month have a top 5(or summin) hardcore releases -and this is the magazine that often said "hardcore is dead", which yes, i suppose it was on life support around the 99 time, but now everythings kicked back in and new events are starting up all the time, but i think that somthing needs to be done now, whilst hardcore is still on the rise, and i suppose the only way forward is to get stuff out into the public. now im not talking about full on commercialisation cuz that no doubt will do the scene no good, but to get people to hear it.

theres new hardcore comps. cummin out almost evrey 2 months now, such as the bonkers seris, hardcore heaven, hardcore till i die, etc. . people need to hear about hardcore whilst these new cds and stuff are still in cd shops so they can say "oh shit yeah. . i heard DJ <whoever> on radio one last nite playing hardcore - ooh look . . bonkers 11 (or woteva). .f**k yeah! im avin that"

i just think that summin needs to be done b4 the scene goes back to 99 with all the same sounds on tracks. . .which i can see happening with raverbaby tracks - im sorry, but thats the way i see it.


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Posted - 2003/10/26 :  12:31:13  Show profile  Send a private message
Radio 1 is shite, always will be cos a few people with beer bellies and grey hair choose the play list. Its to do with the drug culture in part, hard dance can't shake its association with drugs. The BBC probably thinks that if they played hardcore etc people would think they're promoting the dark side.

Nobody listens to radio one anymore anyway cos in the day time its the same 20 tunes played over and over untill the listeners cant take it any more, they swap over to local radio but then can't take the tin pot dj's and adverts. Then they think about radio 2 (god forbid!) before giving up completely!

Perhaps digital redio might change things, more stations and all that but i doubt it.

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Jimmygoat
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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  08:42:56  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Jimmygoat's homepage
bbc actually have a campaign thing, so ironic man.

Sign up and show your support, let them know, dont be lazy etc!!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/club82

"The views expressed in this campaign are those of its members and not the BBC "

Please do the following:

if there is a board you go on that doesnt have this, please post a link to the campaign, thanks!!

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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  09:33:04  Show profile  Send a private message
more hardcore on the radio would be spot on!!!

There was a radio station in Ireland that played hhc/old skool on wed nites for two hours----then grew to playin it every nite of the week with special shows at the weekend....other than that-it was a normal radio station playin usual crap durin the day---then some dodgey radio station squeezed in on the frequency an i lost it!!! :o(

Tried to get onto BBC Radio sheffield----brick wall....never got anywhere...
..but there's always hardcore somewhere...so i'm still happy :)

--just bought £100+ of old hardcore CD's an singles :) well happy!!!!



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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  10:12:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Simon's homepage
Have signed up .

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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  10:58:52  Show profile  Send a private message
didn't sign up-but registered vote---then signed up, and voted again...
..thats TWO votes!!!

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SuperHenke
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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  11:32:30  Show profile  Send a private message
Voted... even thou i dont live in the UK. :p





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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  12:46:50  Show profile  Send a private message
Voted and registered. Now badgering all my mates to do the same

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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  15:57:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage
Voted :)





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fazza
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Posted - 2003/10/30 :  16:46:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit fazza's homepage
voted :) come on everyone!

p.s wonder if john peel has heard the tune? bet he would play it :)

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frankjr
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Lemme know when something like this goes on in Florida. Where I live, they only play DJ Sammy's "Heaven" and they are not even playing that very frequently anymore. It's that bad.





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Splix
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Posted - 2003/10/31 :  07:22:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Splix's homepage
im gona vote... remmber 2 tell ur mates about it! even tho i dont live in UK but i hope it will be popular if it passes and it will come ova to australia ... i hope!

vote if u havent

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Posted - 2003/10/31 :  21:50:16  Show profile  Send a private message
Registered and voted! I hope the $5 is on its way shortly :P





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