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Blackcrow
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 Posted - 2004/11/06 : 18:03:32
Who thinks because of the comercialisation of hardcore its slowing it down??
Because i've heard hardcore at 220, thats hardcore not gabba.
"love you tonight"  ......ahhh my fav tune ATMO, sounds better at 220 bpm, i've tryed it.
Really distorts those sexy vocals.
But i have'nt tryed it with anything descent because i have'nt got winamp.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 18:49:47
Over the years since it's beginning hardcore has got faster and the average speed of tracks is in no way showing any sign of slowing down.
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whispering
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 18:54:11
quote:
Originally posted by Blackcrow:
Who thinks because of the comercialisation of hardcore its slowing it down??
Uhm, almoust all Hardcore records are pressed with the same BPM, its the DJ who desides how fast hes going to play them.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 18:57:20
^^^^ I find quosh tend to press there's a bit faster than others but even they can't be much different.
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Blackcrow
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 21:11:38
Erm....
yes.
You seem to be implying that the pressing plant decides the BPM,
which i'm affraid is untrue.
The drum machine/sequencer, which is controled by the Producer.
Then the Producer decides on the BPM of the song itself.
Then a cutting plate is made by a laser in a peice of metal.
The cutting plate cuts the vinyl is a mass-productive scale.
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whispering
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 21:18:08
quote:
Originally posted by Blackcrow:
You seem to be implying that the pressing plant decides the BPM
Maby you should read my post again. I mean you cant be that stupid.
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BassEd
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 22:11:01
Cant ever see Hardcore slowing down, its always gettin faster.
As for the commercial stuff id neva class that as hardcore there just dance tunes using hardcore samples.
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Seany
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 22:17:51
The Trancey stuff has been getting slower for ages. Listen to that Reach out Hixxy mix and see how slow it is, Same for B&S & D&G.
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Dave Murray
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 22:50:22
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
quote:
Originally posted by Blackcrow:
You seem to be implying that the pressing plant decides the BPM
I mean you cant be that stupid.
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Sean Apollo
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 23:17:05
Hi I play hardcore at 105 bpm
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djDMS
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Posted - 2004/11/06 : 23:22:50
Hardcore is much too fast for me - i prefer to slow it down to 135BPM and put it in trance sets!
Blackcrow - if you're going to start a new topic, at least have a valid point.
There are some slower tracks out there but the majority are the same speed or faster than the stuff that was around a few years ago.
220 BPM is a stupid speed to play a 170-180 BPM track at.
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DJ Saiyan
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Posted - 2004/11/07 : 09:00:03
in general, yeah, hardcore has been slowing down a bit. gone are the days where +8 on a tech 12 equalled high 180s, low 190s.
its just the direction the genre's been moving. not much anybody can do about it. *shrug*
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Posted - 2004/11/07 : 13:04:14
some of it sounds slower i think. that said, it cant get too slow - else it wouldnt be hardcore...
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marchhare
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Posted - 2004/11/08 : 07:26:06
quote:
Originally posted by whispering:
quote:
Originally posted by Blackcrow:
Who thinks because of the comercialisation of hardcore its slowing it down??
Uhm, almoust all Hardcore records are pressed with the same BPM, its the DJ who desides how fast hes going to play them.
YOu took the words right out of my mouth
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Posted - 2004/11/08 : 09:07:23
It's slowing down a little I must admit, but if it's too slow pitch it.. you got +16 if you double pitch your decks or have MK5's.
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Underloop
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Posted - 2004/11/08 : 16:46:03
You get +100% if your using alot of CD decks..... that fast enough for ya? 
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