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Who's The Pirate Then? Poll

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whispering
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Posted - 2005/06/19 :  09:00:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit whispering's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
whispering i gotta say though, i know of no-one that would buy cd's if they didn't think they were good just because they could sell them on so i would have to say thats the minority but still buying second hand cd's does not help the producers anyway as it doesn't increase the record sales at all so no more money is put into there pockets

I didnt say i buy them only cause i can sell them. I buy them cause theres a good possibility that i would like them, e.g. Bonkers 14 was one of those, havent heard of it before. Same with e.g. if i buy the newest Bad Religion CD, i dont know if its good or not. But theres a good possibility. But if its bad, ill sell it and buy another CD.


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Edited by - whispering on 2005/06/19 09:02:31
SixFeet
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Posted - 2005/06/19 :  14:43:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SixFeet's homepage  Reply with quote
ahhh i get you now but you did just say you bought them not knowing whether they were good or bad, that that you probably will like them, but still selling one copy of a cd second hand 50 thousand times gets less money in the pocket of artists than selling 2 copies brand new

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Posted - 2005/06/19 :  15:52:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Underloop's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by SixFeet:
ahhh i get you now but you did just say you bought them not knowing whether they were good or bad, that that you probably will like them, but still selling one copy of a cd second hand 50 thousand times gets less money in the pocket of artists than selling 2 copies brand new

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Whilst I see your argument and agree to an extent, you do also have the principle that (providing no copies are made) the money paid to the artist means that that particular recording can only be played in one particular place at any time - kind of like a licence as you would get with software. By selling it on, Whispering is simply transferring the licence. He can no longer play that track/album. Using the same thoughts on the download situation, the person uploading is in essence making multiple copies of the licence - something which only the copyright holder has the right to do.

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Posted - 2005/06/20 :  07:27:36  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
Mark Oh owns his tracks, not the public, if he does not want to release it again then that is his choice. It's not Mark Oh's fault that you love his music now and not 5 years ago when he made it, people release things on limited vinyl for the fans, you should respect that and if you really want his music you should pay for it as it will just make the track so much better... If you download all your tunes your music has no value... gets boring quick, you buy something you get something to put on your shelf and sell to your friends for 30 pounds when you come to sell it :)

Pirating just ****s hardcore music even if it is released a long while ago... it pisses off artists and labels off so why should they release anything else.

it's all hardcore.


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