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bulby_g
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 Posted - 2005/06/24 : 14:46:16
I don’t think hardcore will ever burst into the mainstream not any time soon anyway it's just too fast for allot of people they just cant handle the pace ;) I don’t think it will die either though it might lose the taggers its picked up over the last couple of years but it wont die.
I know there are problems such as the big boy labels knocking out formulated tracks just like what happened in the late 9's but if you look at the minor labels and freeform the innovation is still there even some of the big labels the new hard edge d&g tunes on EP NG&BB still have good variety, it's all good ;).
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motivated
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 14:48:14
HARDCORE WILL NEVER EVER DIE!!!!!
at least i hope not, i would die if it did!
HAPPY TO HEAR HARDCORE!
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Leto
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 15:08:41
As I sit here in the US, I can say that the Electronic Music Scene has an immense amount of popularity here in the states. Trance artists, such as Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren and Paul Van Dyk are becoming more and more popular. Take Me Away by 4 Strings was on the Billboards here (I think). And, I personally think that the more the Electronic Music Scene spreads, the more of a chance that hardcore has to break into the mainstream. I envision that more trancey style hardcore (Styles and Breeze) will break into the States and become a huge hit, and then maybe, the harder genres of hardcore will follow. I have a feeling about this, because I go to Tower Records here in Nashville, TN...and I can buy Hardcore Heaven, DJ Hyper's Wired (not hardcore...but excellent breakbeat), and Bonkers 9-13 (14 hasn't been released in the US yet...not as a box set August 2, I think is the release date)...or anything else on their two full shelves of electronic or "dance" music section.
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Entity
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 15:15:25
At this rate AATW and Resist will basically the main forces behind the whole scene propelling the likes of Hixxy etc. onwards but leaving behind everyone else who in my opinion have worked just as hard, if not harder because they don't want to get caught up in all this - they're pushing for diversity and innovation.
What we need are more Hardcore Tunez and more Hardcore Reuniteds - check those tracklistings - nice and varied!
Pick up pretty much ANY hardcore album from the early/mid '90s and look at the tracklistings - a varied range of artists and labels right? I haven't bought B14 yet, and I can't remember the tracklistings but I guess it's a Raverbaby/Evo/Essential Platinum showcase?
Props to Sharkey for going against the grain on the Bonkers series by playing lots of tunes from other artists and labels. 
I am getting pretty tired of some of the big DJ's mixing tunes from their own stables and basically ostracizing everyone else. What's the point? They're all hardcore too - give 'em a chance!!!!!
ryg0r, I know you're disheartened at the moment and I really don't blame you, but don't wilter on us just yet. Keep making those tunes mate.
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DarrenJ
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 17:16:50
I cant see why people are so scared for this invisable bubble popping
I have seen the arguement towards other styles of music also, R&B dying just cause desteiny child arent in the charts? ummm yeah
anyway if hardcore "died" like in 99, then it will come back with a new style/directions, just like all styles do
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DJ Vibalrush
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 17:44:17
I think the scene is stayin really fresh at the moment, hardcores never been so open as to the amount of different sounds being produced. EVERY label sounds different from each other, which just wasnt the case back in the 90s, where it was almost impossible to tell each label apart.
Its also not just the big labels that are churning out quality music either. Yeh Raver Baby, Quosh, Maximum Impact etc are always consistent with releasing top notch hardcore. But now less mainstream labels are grabbing huge attention for the 1st time. Remember back in the 90s everything was UK Dance, Quosh, Next Generation etc.
Imo one of the best things that ever happened to hardcore is The Nu Energy Collective, theyve blown everything wide open by sticking to what they believe in, n pushing the smaller artists n labels into competition with the big guns. Nuff respect boys...
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2005/06/24 : 17:51:27
It wont die, if anything it can just fade away only to come back again.
Imo theres enough talent and tunes out there to keep it moving, even if at a slower pace. And hardcore is some quality music so its going to appeal to more and more people.
Since i started djing ive noticed more and more people getting into the hardcore rave scene. So for where I live here in So Cal, the scene is progessing.
Looking forward to a bright future for hardcore.
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clarke101
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 01:11:34
Untill casual ravers/fans stop buying cd's going to the big raves, I think very little will change.
When they start to get bored of hearing very similar tunes over and over again, things may change.
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B.C
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 01:17:32
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Vibalrush:
Imo one of the best things that ever happened to hardcore is The Nu Energy Collective, theyve blown everything wide open by sticking to what they believe in, n pushing the smaller artists n labels into competition with the big guns. Nuff respect boys...
good call!
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Brian K
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 03:06:57
if we could get djs to vary up their sets and not play just one specific area of hardcore I believe it's success would skyrocket.
I'll keep buying, spinning, and producing...been listening for too long to stop now =P
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TypeR
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 03:52:33
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Originally posted by motivated:
HARDCORE WILL NEVER EVER DIE!!!!!
at least i hope not, i would die if it did!
HAPPY TO HEAR HARDCORE!
good thing you werent' in the scene in 98, you would have died then.
I may be a little off here, but in the opening of this thread, Sam had said that he didn't want this to be a "hardcore will never die" thread, and it's sad but when I saw your name Motivated, I somehow knew that you were going to be the one to post that.
Posting on the boards is cool, and conversation here can be really good.
Motivated, you may try to join into the conversations and open your dialect and maybe learn something or be a part of the conversation rather than post a one line waffle sentence in every open topic on the Active Topics page.
Join the forums, don't just be a poster.
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lucificifus
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 05:01:17
Who cares? If it dies it dies, nothing I can do about it. I'm dragging my freinds to a rave on sunday with promises of drugs. For most people "techno" is just "music for when I'm rollin". Most new people on this board in fact.
And btw...
Its a hard trance rave. And I'm not going to care that its not hardcore, I'm just going to enjoy myself.
And guess what...
without drugs. I like most hard electronica, even if its a bit boring.
THE BOTTOM LINE:
Keep pushing your hardcore tapes, keep exposing your freinds, and quit worrying about the scene dieing. Just be your self. Hell, I still play tape packs for 99 (YES I LIKE EVOLUTION 30-55). As Silver says: its all hardcore.
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FubarTunes
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 05:27:38
I think hardcore is like any other genre.
you get a generation that loves it, but whne they settle to family life or working life and stop going, the genre dies off a bit (although never completley dead).
They still carry on listenin to what they listened to in their earlier antics (thier kids grow up with this) until their kids are old enough to go clubbing.
Club music being slower than what they've grown up to know, and Hardcore Relives again.
Hardocre was born around 1988 and add the age of todays ravers and you get 2005!
What i want to know is, now thier kids are out doing what they did, do you think maybe their parents are there in the oldskool arenas? lol
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Rita
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 09:16:06
I know it's my first time back in months and I don't mean to come back with a bitter attitude, but...
...hardcore is like every other genre. It is my worst nightmare that the media, especially the American media, will catch on. They will, soon enough, but I think if we all worry about it that it will only speed up the process. I feel like we have to preserve and protect hardcore from the outside world... or else it will be tainted.
I feel like if we all run around fretting the destruction of hardcore, our worries only exploit the fact that it's out there. If we don't make such a huge fuss about it perishing, perhaps we will be spared a bit longer.
For instance, when a bee flies toward you, stand still and it will pass you by. If you flail around, it will sting you.
I want to support the artists and I do as much as I can to. But support and exploit are two different things.
Darn. Now I'm scared.
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-RAVIN9-
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Posted - 2005/06/25 : 09:46:06
Now that i think about it, ever since raves have been getting more popular here they have been losing theyre quality. Its like the organisers of the events dont give a f**k nemore bout producing a night to remember, they just care about the money that they get from how many people have now started attending raves because they have grown to be popular. I will always stick by the hardcore scene even if its just buying the cd's, im a newbie myself to raves but i have a passion for it, i won't just abandon it if popularity ever decreases but i relli do wish sum of the wannabe's that aren't there for d music would just go find sumthin else to do wif their time.
Im not sayin to go hate newbies n stuff but In the words of Rita:
i feel like we have to preserve and protect hardcore from the outside world... or else it will be tainted.
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