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The Origin of Hardcore

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WhipLash
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Posted - 2005/08/13 :  23:52:56  Show profile Send a private message
Me again.....(the dude from holland)

To keep it a bit more simple for me i'll be answering some questions at the same time right now.

Yes...thunderdome parties are still organized a couple times a year and are still alive and kickin'!!! =)

And....how hardcore started??.....it all began when acid-house was invented in Chicago (yes in Chicago).
it then became big in the UK and a second 'summer of love' was being held in Ibiza island.
Only this time with acid-house insted of rock and with XTC insted of LSD (acid).

To make my point..... from acid-house came the 'House' music which was invented in the UK....then that transformed into Drum 'n' Bass in the UK.

The UK-house music was transformed into the Hardcore you al know today.
That transformation took place in Holland!! =) =)

last but not least..... The DOMINATOR hardcore festival that was resently held in Holland kicked ASSSS!!!
It was ****ing awesome!!

Grtz WhipLash (NL).

ps: I'd like to e-mail about this stuff to people...if anyone is interested... my e-mail adres is:..... [email protected]



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yaddam205
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Posted - 2005/08/14 :  00:02:16  Show profile  Send a private message
That's very informative, however alot of us have already dicussed this many times in the forum, but i did'nt know acid house, started in chicago.

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Edited by - hbf on 2005/08/14 09:52:43
DarrenJ
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Posted - 2005/08/14 :  02:04:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DarrenJ's homepage
you could argue forever who created it
I mean the sampler was made in the 70s,...
experimental disco


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Posted - 2005/08/14 :  03:05:50  Show profile  Send a private message
I didnt know about acid-house being invented in Chicago.
Thanks for all the information.




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The UK-house music was transformed into the Hardcore you al know today.
That transformation took place in Holland!! =) =)

I disagree.




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House actually came out of the Disco scene in New York and Chicago, along with Garage....

Perhaps I am wrong on this score though :-)


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Edited by - Underloop on 2005/08/14 14:17:02
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i disagree where hardcore became hardcore.....

scott browny type shit came out of bouncey techno an happy gabba an all that shit

while all those southerners took on breakbeat hardcorey stuff.

its all on that wikpeidia hing.


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Am i right in sayin that Stu Allen brought on a big influence in hardcore back in the early 90's with his Key 103 show?
Cos thats what got me into it and i believe a lot of people in the northwest especially Merseyside caught the hardcore bug?
I know Whittle av said this a few times but i think hes owed credit in a big way!
Come back Stu Allen! Please?


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he never even mentioned detroit techno, they all came out at around the same time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Underloop:
House actually came out of the Disco scene in New York and Chicago, along with Garage....

Perhaps I am wrong on this score though :-)



Correct, but the genre coined "Acid House" began with a young Marshall Jefferson and DJ Pierre in Chicago. It's heavy use of the Roland TB-303 is what differentiated it from the disco based "House" being played at the time.


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ecstatic_manic_erocdrah
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Posted - 2005/08/15 :  05:20:54  Show profile  Send a private message
well house was formed in chicago (thats why we have chicago house) I thought gabber was formed in holland(netherlands)(gabbers) whatever and broke off into happy hardcore and than jungle broke off into that...i could have sworn thats how it went

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HardCore Latina
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I always thought Gabber started either in Germany or Holland? I always knew about Chicago house, DJ's like : DJ Markski, DJ Erik K and ETC are famous for that. Detroit Techno? that must've been ages ago...hmmm, I guess you learn something new everyday :)

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gabba started in roterdam a hink...sum weird story bout a bouncer knocking back a skinnhead and calling him gabber meaning friend

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Posted - 2005/08/15 :  11:18:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kathryn's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by zippy:
gabba started in roterdam a hink...sum weird story bout a bouncer knocking back a skinnhead and calling him gabber meaning friend



Remember that hard tune back in early 90's that went:

'Rotterdam yeah'?
That was a bangin tune!


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Edited by - kathryn on 2005/08/15 14:24:23
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Posted - 2005/08/15 :  14:19:26  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
quote:
Originally posted by zippy:
i disagree where hardcore became hardcore.....

scott browny type shit came out of bouncey techno an happy gabba an all that shit

while all those southerners took on breakbeat hardcorey stuff.

its all on that wikpeidia hing.



All the hardcore related wikipedia articles are a big mess.

However there have been 2 main roots of hardcore:

The breakbeat (of which the amen sample was used almost religiously)

The gabber (brought the introduction of the kick drum)

I need to dig up some old links/content from old (and I mean old) sites.


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