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mark-ireland
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 Posted - 2005/10/01 : 20:33:30
Theres far too many members that talk shit their slowly but surely turning all the sensible members away.
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Jon O-T
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 21:08:58
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Originally posted by Uproar:
triggy is nothing but a trolling wanker, and I think the forums will be a better place without him and people will be happier if he was no longer a member of these forums.................
Totally agree!
Iv'e noticed that i post in the General Discussion area more than the hardcore discussion area. This is probably because of my lack of hardcore knowlage. If there really is less hardcore discussion every day pissing everyone off, And if i appear as a spammer, i would rather someone told me now. I would rather know, cheers.
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katrinar50
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 21:28:46
Whilst I agree that some of the newer members just post shite I also think that some of the older members have become very elitist..
If you post a general topic such as "what is your favourite tune/bonkers etc you getted moaned at, refered to an earlier thread and locked. If you try to resurrect an old thread you get slammed as a noob dragging up old threads. This is also killing the forum because the older members are not leaving a lot left for some hardcore newbies to talk about. Just because you had a discussion a year ago doesn't mean it can't be repeated ever again surely!!!... after all the membership has increased dramatically over the last year so these threads will be fresh to a lot of people. Also surely as you mature and the music evolves your opinions must change?
Kat
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UKr4veR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 21:36:28
If my rules were taken in and used you would see a drastic change.
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SixFeet
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 21:39:41
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Originally posted by mark-ireland:
Theres far too many members that talk shit their slowly but surely turning all the sensible members away.
i'm sure i fall into that group
post counts should be thrown away, too many people posting just for the sake of getting a large post count. stops the useless off topic spam
probably seems like i do the above but alas it is just i have too much time on my hands
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Jon O-T
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 22:24:21
I wouldnt like 2 see all of the post counts vanish. But the main question is, IS RANKING RIGHT? Some ones post count isn't 2 say "nana, i got 1000 post, that makes me more superiour 2 u!!!1 F00k all the newbies" but it shows there dedication to the site, for over 4 years to many members. Is it really worth throwing all that away, because of some spam?...no
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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 22:38:29
It's just a number I wouldn't care if I got to 14,000,000 posts and then they got wiped. Who ever cares about losing a post count on a internet forum has... well i don't know but somthing isn't right. End of the day we're not here to get a number higher then everyone else, just look at other places with no post counts and look how they are. If you post alot and are a regular here you will still be noticed, it don't take a high number for you too be seen.
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Needforspeed
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 2005/10/01 : 22:48:26
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Originally posted by Uproar:
I think most people will agree, that people who post nothing but shite all the time should be banned.
Here's a couple of quotes from our main poster of shite...........
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Originally posted by triggy:
suck my cock you transexual
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Originally posted by triggy:
4: ban whispering freom the board for being finnish
5: allow heavy drug discussion
6: smell my cheese HAHAH I JUST PUNCHED U IN THE NOSE!!! 8-) *rolls eyes*
triggy is nothing but a trolling wanker, and I think the forums will be a better place without him and people will be happier if he was no longer a member of these forums.................
why ? some of these guys makes it fun to watch the forums
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 00:02:18
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Originally posted by Uproar:
triggy is nothing but a trolling wanker, and I think the forums will be a better place without him and people will be happier if he was no longer a member of these forums.................
It's not just him/her, recently I've noticed about three members who's posts seem pointless, they seem to either thirve on offending or thirve on annoying.
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B.C
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 00:33:57
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Originally posted by katrinar50:
Whilst I agree that some of the newer members just post shite I also think that some of the older members have become very elitist..
If you post a general topic such as "what is your favourite tune/bonkers etc you getted moaned at, refered to an earlier thread and locked. If you try to resurrect an old thread you get slammed as a noob dragging up old threads. This is also killing the forum because the older members are not leaving a lot left for some hardcore newbies to talk about. Just because you had a discussion a year ago doesn't mean it can't be repeated ever again surely!!!... after all the membership has increased dramatically over the last year so these threads will be fresh to a lot of people. Also surely as you mature and the music evolves your opinions must change?
Kat
Good point.
I like the weekly sticky idea, as well as the suggestion on stricter rules being imposed.
ie. If a member starts a thread that is neither hardcore-related or interesting to anyone, and is obviously just spamming, the topic should be locked, eg. The question for the guys/girls threads, they were just ridiculous and truly cringe-worthy.
If a member continually re-offends they should be banned from the forum, eg. in my opinion triggy should have been banned a long time ago, although I'm sure he just wants attention and ultimately to be banned and we would merely be playing into his hands, I find it frustrating that I have to visit a forum I usually enjoy and endure pointless, offensive and generally crap posts.
Take care Roberticus, we'll hopefully hear from you soon.
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CorDharel
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Switzerland
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 07:28:00
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The only active finnish member besides me :(
Huh? I don't see any swiss guys in this forum 
I got an idea! To talk about something that matters we need good topics. Why dont we take news from other newspages and discuss these?
Like topics about wars, bush, countries, parties or why this 10 year old girl had a baby?
I think that is how we do it in reallife.
BTW do u know this sentence: "No news, good news"? 
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Underloop
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 10:17:06
A few points have been made, so thought I would add in my 2 cents:
1. Trollers: Let them be. This isn't (or at least shouldn't be) an elitist site, and if they're not upsetting/offending people then leave them be. I personally find some of the troll threads mildly amusing. Nobody forces you to read them, and if you see its a post by a known troller then just ignore it.
2. Post Counts: I agree with the general consensus on this one, do away with them. However, it is nice to see who the noobs and who the regulars on, so perhaps keep the ranking system. As for Triggy's comment about no life, I disagree. It just shows some of us have been here longer. I'm not a post monster, yet I'm amongst the highest posters on this site. Perhaps the rank should be made into some sort of algorithm that takes into account post count AND the length of time you've been a member. Simplest algorithm would be (post count * number of days member). This could also weed out the spammers - perhaps a new rank of "spammer" where if the ratio of (post count/number of days member) goes over a certain value you automatically become a spammer? Dunno, lots of factors to take into account there and I'm just brainstorming right now.
3. Members opinions: Yaddam's idea is a good one. I've seen on some sites a "Karma" ranking against your profile..... perhaps this could be introduced?
4. Topic digging/repeating: This should be a moderator's discretion really. Some threads are good to be re-opened, others not so good. People shouldn't be slammed for either re-opening or repeating an old discussion though. As has been said, this forum has grown loads in the past year. If it was a rule where you couldn't talk about stuff thats already been discussed then there'll be nothing left to talk about.
5. News from other sites: One thing I've learnt is to be very careful when discussing politics or religion. People often feel very strongly about both of these things and tempers do get frayed. I remember being involved (against my better judgement) in a discussion on religion on these forums. Fortunately it ended peacefully, but there were a few points during the thread where people were getting pretty upset at some comments made - however everybody is entitled to their opinions, but it doesn't stop people with different opinions taking offense.
A thought I have just had would be to have all of the hhc.com front page news items as threads. I know you now have the "click here to discuss this resource" link at the bottom of some news items, but I'm saying actually have the news item as a post as well. Theres so many ways to implement this, so I'm not going to bother discussing that, but apart fromthe initial coding that wouldn't mean any more burden on mods/admin to make threads, and provide some meaty discussion resources for the site. It would also mean that people that bookmark the active links page rather than the home page get to see the front page news, and I'm sure the extra content would do the search engine rankings the world of good
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zelachang
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 10:20:00
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Originally posted by katrinar50:
If you post a general topic such as "what is your favourite tune/bonkers etc you getted moaned at, refered to an earlier thread and locked. If you try to resurrect an old thread you get slammed as a noob dragging up old threads. This is also killing the forum because the older members are not leaving a lot left for some hardcore newbies to talk about. Just because you had a discussion a year ago doesn't mean it can't be repeated ever again surely!!!... after all the membership has increased dramatically over the last year so these threads will be fresh to a lot of people. Also surely as you mature and the music evolves your opinions must change?
Kat
i just wanted to say I totally agree
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 10:22:08
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Originally posted by UKr4veR:
1. Enforce some stronger rules.
What type of rules?
Also about that Sticky topic thing. I've been thinking of making a sort of "popular subjects" -topic. Witch would consist links to all that areas often made topics. Kind of like a subforum. I personally dont like forums where basicly the first page is full of stickys. But having all the popular ones easily found from one topic, could lessen the double topics.
E.g. the Hardcore areas sticky would have links to all Favourite CD, DJ, Producer, Label, Bonkers, Track etc topics. And new topics would be added to the list when needed. This would at least make it easier to direct people to the older topics. Good or bad idea?
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Originally posted by Underloop:
perhaps a new rank of "spammer" where if the ratio of (post count/number of days member) goes over a certain value you automatically become a spammer?
Hey thats pretty good idea, spammers would become from junior/senior/advanced etc members to "Spamming member" or "Trolling member" :D
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Jon O-T
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Posted - 2005/10/02 : 11:33:56
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Originally posted by UKr4veR:
It's just a number I wouldn't care if I got to 14,000,000 posts and then they got wiped. Who ever cares about losing a post count on a internet forum has... well i don't know but somthing isn't right. End of the day we're not here to get a number higher then everyone else, just look at other places with no post counts and look how they are. If you post alot and are a regular here you will still be noticed, it don't take a high number for you too be seen.
I agree with most of that. But what about the people that used to post a lot and not now? For example, Simon, he has a post count of about 3800 or something. And im sure he never spammed.
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Originally posted by UKr4veR:
If you post alot and are a regular here you will still be noticed, it don't take a high number for you too be seen.
Because he hasn't posted for a few months he will not appear as a serious poster to all of the newbies. And as Kat said, thats a lot of people recently. So how will he be noticed by all of the newbies without his post count? Without his post count remaining and lots of others how are the majority going to know he ever existed?
And they espessilly wont know him if their not allowd to topic dig.
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