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DarrenJ
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 Posted - 2005/10/13 : 18:35:37
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Originally posted by tha_cheek:
loads of you will disagree with me but i think it was the right thing to do.
Perhaps there isnt any WMD but sadam killed 1000's of his people maybe millions , and big ditches were found with them all in. So the death toll of the war isnt half as much as the people he killed
the genocide of the those people happened 13years ago, because there was a civil war
they lost (kurds) and this was there punishment for uprising and since saddam had to take back the city (which he never got control of anyway), blood was spilled
get info on the genocide from here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/kurdish/htdocs/his/Khaledtext.html
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Da Cunney Bugz
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 14:46:21
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Originally posted by tha_cheek:
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two wrongs don't make a right!! ... just because he killed lots of people does not give anybody the right to kill even more innocent people!
but the army didnt go in with the intent to kill innocent people and if you watched the news a bit ago, british soldiers were getting petrol bombs thrown at them and they didnt retaliate
hmmm who who rite my m8 or d gorgus gurl
i reckon da cheek rite actually, we had 2 go 2 war coz we couldnt of taken d risk of him avin d chemical weapons we thought he had, even if he didnt ave dem n we thought he did we couldnt of taken the risk
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 15:08:50
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Originally posted by tha_cheek:
but the army didnt go in with the intent to kill innocent people and if you watched the news a bit ago, british soldiers were getting petrol bombs thrown at them and they didnt retaliate
Erm, so what your saying is, if i come to Britain with shit load of soldiers, tanks etc, you would think its OK as long as our "intent" isnt to kill civilians? If you would come to my country with weapons, kill a shit load of civilians, while taking over the natural resources of my country. Of course i would try to kill you.
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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 15:58:34
^^^ As would I. Side by side, ey whisp? 
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 16:25:44
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Originally posted by Roberticus:
^^^ As would I. Side by side, ey whisp?
Hehe yea, actually that might happen even without a war. Next summer i should do my military service :p Witch i think is the year you have your conscription?
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Priest
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 17:29:35
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Originally posted by katrinar50:
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Originally posted by virus:
I'm against the war, and i'd have to say i'll be against the war for the next 7, 8 years..
That must make you a "drug ridden hippy" like me
Seriously I don't get involved in politics on this or any forum but I have to say that there are a lot of flaws and unfounded assumptions with your article Priest.
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yeah i know the flaws, that's mostly a piece for english, i can't side with both sides or stick or have several ideas so i had to pick a statement and stick with it. i'll have you know that it's not my opinion (entirely) either. but i'm happy you actually read the thing :D. as for references teacher doesn't ask me for em cause he sees me reading too much and doesnt want to have to check them all out. i can score you a couple once i re-read the piece :P
as of toady i don't beleive in the iraqi war but i do beleive in the Peacekeeping bit in the UN (could be because i'm going over eh?)
oh and don't ask for any work on what my actual opinion is, i've never been able to put it down and actually summarize everything i've got to say, as i constantly think and change while i write.
forgot another thing, the 'drug ridden hippie' bit wasn't meant to offend anyone, should of clarified that, it's an inside joke i shouldnt of put up.
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tha_cheek
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 19:11:41
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Erm, so what your saying is, if i come to Britain with shit load of soldiers, tanks etc, you would think its OK as long as our "intent" isnt to kill civilians? If you would come to my country with weapons, kill a shit load of civilians, while taking over the natural resources of my country. Of course i would try to kill you.
If you came to overthrow a facist dictator, fair does
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 19:29:24
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Originally posted by tha_cheek:
If you came to overthrow a facist dictator, fair does
So in other words i can deside what political system your country should have, and kill everyone that disagrees with me? Cool.
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tha_cheek
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 19:36:09
Well on the day that US troops invaded baghdad,they seemed happy then
And election day they all went to vote even when threatened by insurgents.
So if you were living there you'd rather live under a totalitarian regime than under a democracy were you get the vote, more rights, right to a fair trial
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HardCore Latina
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 19:51:50
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Originally posted by UKr4veR:
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What he said
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 20:27:15
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Originally posted by DarrenJ:
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Originally posted by tha_cheek:
loads of you will disagree with me but i think it was the right thing to do.
Perhaps there isnt any WMD but sadam killed 1000's of his people maybe millions , and big ditches were found with them all in. So the death toll of the war isnt half as much as the people he killed
the genocide of the those people happened 13years ago, because there was a civil war
they lost (kurds) and this was there punishment for uprising and since saddam had to take back the city (which he never got control of anyway), blood was spilled
get info on the genocide from here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/kurdish/htdocs/his/Khaledtext.html
I haven't read that but didn't he use gas to kill thousands in that city?
Gas = chemical weapon = WMD
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Da Cunney Bugz
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Posted - 2005/11/02 : 22:22:35
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Roberticus:
^^^ As would I. Side by side, ey whisp?
Hehe yea, actually that might happen even without a war. Next summer i should do my military service :p Witch i think is the year you have your conscription?
does it not bum ya life up avin to do dat at d best part of ya life??? n wot does it achieve for ya country
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/11/03 : 09:05:29
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Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
does it not bum ya life up avin to do dat at d best part of ya life??? n wot does it achieve for ya country
Yes, it does. What it acheeves for my country, is to have an army good enough to be able to defence it, if someone tryes to invade.
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Priest
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Posted - 2005/11/03 : 18:45:11
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by Da Cunney Bugz:
does it not bum ya life up avin to do dat at d best part of ya life??? n wot does it achieve for ya country
Yes, it does. What it acheeves for my country, is to have an army good enough to be able to defence it, if someone tryes to invade.
i wouldnt mind conscription, makes it easier for me to join up, have you seen the damn pamphlet to join up? its freakin HUGE! and you gotta run all over the palce for references and whatnot.
and it's only a year over there right? that and you can stay fulltime after too right? if so and you stayed, good rep eh?
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whispering
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Posted - 2005/11/03 : 18:58:40
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Originally posted by Priest:
i wouldnt mind conscription, makes it easier for me to join up, have you seen the damn pamphlet to join up? its freakin HUGE! and you gotta run all over the palce for references and whatnot.
and it's only a year over there right? that and you can stay fulltime after too right? if so and you stayed, good rep eh?
Every finnish guy has to go to army for 6-12 months (Women can go volunteerly). If you dont want to go, you can do civilian service, which is 13 months working free for the government. If you refuse to do either, then its 6 months in jail.
Anyway, if you go to army, after the military service, you can volunteer to be a peacekeeper, and soon i would assume for The European Union Rapid Reaction Forces. Though i dont know much about our army... as i havent even been there yet :p
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