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swansea247
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 Posted - 2005/10/17 : 14:13:23
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Originally posted by cooperjazzy55:
its not about making a living, ok fair enough they can make a living but dont kill hardcore whilst your doing it!
who the fcuk said it was killing hardcore? and how the fcuk can it kill hardcore when the original artists are realeasing it (dickhead)
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 14:14:34
when styles or any other dance act comes out with these hardcore-softcore ripoffs
there's 2 things we think about
1: do we like it? NO, so really (you are right swansea247) we shouldn't come here and comlain
2: but we do complain - why? because it's giving the hardcore scene a bad name. hardcore doesn't need to be comercialised, when teens get to 18 they'll hopfully refuse get spoonfed by chart music and explore, that's how us guys found out anyway!
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clarke101
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 15:04:16
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
when styles or any other dance act comes out with these hardcore-softcore ripoffs
there's 2 things we think about
1: do we like it? NO, so really (you are right swansea247) we shouldn't come here and comlain
2: but we do complain - why? because it's giving the hardcore scene a bad name. hardcore doesn't need to be comercialised, when teens get to 18 they'll hopfully refuse get spoonfed by chart music and explore, that's how us guys found out anyway!
If hardcore was not commercialised then most of the major players would disappear.
Vinly sales are poor, most labels make hardly any profit if at all on vinyl sales.
To keep releasing music most require money from other ventures and cd album royalties to keep going.
Why do you think nearly every big hardcore producer also releases other forms of music. To make a living from music. Where do draw the line for what is acceptable Hard dance, Garage etc.
At least Breeze and Styles are getting the credit they deserve for their music instead of people like flip and fill who mainly release covers.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 15:39:28
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
when styles or any other dance act comes out with these hardcore-softcore ripoffs
there's 2 things we think about
1: do we like it? NO, so really (you are right swansea247) we shouldn't come here and comlain
2: but we do complain - why? because it's giving the hardcore scene a bad name. hardcore doesn't need to be comercialised, when teens get to 18 they'll hopfully refuse get spoonfed by chart music and explore, that's how us guys found out anyway!
Why do you assume everyone agrees with you? If you don't like Breeze & Style's tracks then don't listen to them, simple! If you want to listen to the old skool sound then only visit raves with a old skool arena, listen to old tape packs or make your own! 8-bit and rawwwwwww
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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 16:36:55
Pfff they can't make that much from one Album, they get more just from getting booked at a Rave I should think. What happens when they all want money from it, do they all start getting softer and softer hoping to be on Top of the Pops. Then they start relasing any old shite don't care what the long time listeners think, just what makes them money. Then ticket prices go up at Raves and it will go on. And then it just comes one big business, just like Football.
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Evel
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 16:56:01
At least it's their own track, not a hardcore classic that is about to hit the charts. Now i am going to heard chav girls singing along to it coz it is 'well 'ardcore innit'
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mark-ireland
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 18:32:28
I cant understand how artists make hardcore tracks and then make utter shite like that, imo its for the money cant see how a artist making hardcore would like that.
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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 18:55:04
Come on...
...This isn't hardcore, and why would the hardcore scene suffer from one track? The artists get more money, so that they stay in the music business and keep making music.
And would you lot please stop defining what hardcore is, cause there are ALOT of different styles within Hardcore.
"This isn't real hardcore" <- STOP THAT!
As Silver's signatures says "It's all Hardcore".
And if the younger like it, then good, they'll be more drawn to the EDM scene.
And if you're longing for the old days of hardcore, well then you missed the train, cause it has envolved.
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Roberticus
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:01:34
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
oooog gooD ANOTHER chance for these losers to give hardcore even more of a chav-image >:o( when we all know real hardcore is cool and skater like.
Skater like..? all I say is WTF?
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mark-ireland
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:28:15
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As Silver's signatures says "It's all Hardcore".
What has that got to do with anything?
This tune isnt hardcore its named "pop" mix.
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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:34:16
Definitely a money making scheme and a bit of 5 minute fame.
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jenks
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:41:44
^^ Exactly, no-ones disputing that, I just can't understand why some people insist that it's damaging the scene...
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NeXuS
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:43:09
You guys are too bent up about your 'scene'.
Take a look at all the other music 'scenes'. If a
band came out with a rock song that sounded more
like a pop-rock song, I don't think I would be hearing
the same complaining about it ruining the 'scene'.
Truth is, artists make what they want. And if it
sells and pulls more people into the 'hardcore
scene', then let them. If someone become genuenly
interested in hardcore, then they will do the research
and find out there are alot of other sounds to hardcore.
Just embrace the fact that there are other sounds to
hardcore (not talking about this pop mix), and stop
complaining that its ruining a scene. It is only expanding
it!!
Now criticism about a track is all well and good, but plz
dont say its ruining an entire scene for you and go
and post another complaint thread for every damn track
you dont like....
Please keep in mind I really dont care when people
complain or criticise, saying its utter shit (i think so too),
but the only thing I dont like to see if when you say its
ruining hardcore. Thats all. ok.... now bash away....
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clarke101
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:47:12
Its simple read my previous post. If they dont make other tunes then they wont be able to make a living making music.
Do you all moan about
Sy+Unknown making Garage, Hard House & scouse house stuff
Do you moan about Breeze and Styles having non hardcore releases on Nukleuz
NO its only because its charty
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UKr4veR
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Posted - 2005/10/17 : 19:52:06
But they don't go on Top of the Pops, I've never played Heartbeatz since it hit Top of the Pops. Shooting Star was also destroyed from Top of the Pops, it's a mess sort it out **** sake.
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