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Jax
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Posted - 2005/11/01 :  09:34:20  Show profile Send a private message  Visit Jax's homepage
right im wanting to build a new pc but i dont know what parts to buy and where from!

im after something with this sort of spec:

- amd 2ghz and above processer
- pref a SCSI board (as long as they aint stupidly espensive) or a RAID if they are
- 512 ddr ram or above if its goin cheap nowadays
- dvd rom
- dvd rw
- 128mb graphics card
- 60gb hard drive
- a new case cause th eone i have is far too big for what i need, and its doesnt circulate air very well at all (even with 4 fans, 2 in 2 out)
- + powerpack and cables

im looking to spend £400 - £500, is this spec possible?

i havnt got a clue whats compatable with what, whats good quality and whats not so i could do with a bit of help :)


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Posted - 2005/11/01 :  09:42:03  Show profile  Send a private message
i wish to help

BUT....

i dnt ave a clue


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Posted - 2005/11/01 :  09:56:27  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message
Dude.

What SCSI? I mean if you want a cheap RAID you can use SATA.

But later you want a 60GB hard drive?

Ram is very cheap these days though.

Wait, you want a DVD-rom and then a DVD-rw? Why not just get the DVD-rw?

hmmm.

Most of parts that you buy are compatible though.

Um, judging by the current currency rate, I would say that it is highly do-able for well under that price. If a shop can't do it, they're trying to rip you off.


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you could afford that pc, esp if u bought the parts on ebay

case I have and a few mates, is the coolmaster Centurion (1-2 on front behind front grill) and 2 on back



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i reckon if you did all the labour yourself and used your noggin you could do that for £300-350 maybe a bit cheaper

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quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
What SCSI? I mean if you want a cheap RAID you can use SATA.



http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/SCSI.html

quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
But later you want a 60GB hard drive?



ive already got a 100gb hard drive

quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
Wait, you want a DVD-rom and then a DVD-rw? Why not just get the DVD-rw?



suppose its a waste of money really cause i wont be doing much dvd to dvd ripping at all

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Originally posted by ryg0r:
If a shop can't do it, they're trying to rip you off.



im not going to bother going to a shop, id rather spend time building it myself rather than give them my hard earned cash that could be getting spend on better things like records!


what sort of brands should i be going for?

could you recomend a board and a processor, powerpack and cables as they are the only things that im not sure about, everything else is pretty much plug and play


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I know what SCSI is, but I'm confused as why you want it.

And why not get a 300GB seeing as they are easy to ge then the 60GBs. At least in stores here.

You can still do DVD ripping and burning with the one drip.

Unless you get cheap-ass OEM, the most of the time, the cables come with the hardware. But for powersupplies, I recommend ANTEC. They have true power readings not the peak performance that alot of power packs advertise. I mean, they will run happily at 450w without breaking a sweat whereas the generic will hit 450w and smoke and burn.


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http://www.overclockers.co.uk

Go to the forum on the site. Also its a good store.

My advice save some more money.

stores

pc next day (i think)
watford electrical ( or electronics i think)
dabs
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quote:
Originally posted by ryg0r:
I know what SCSI is, but I'm confused as why you want it.

And why not get a 300GB seeing as they are easy to ge then the 60GBs. At least in stores here.

You can still do DVD ripping and burning with the one drip.

Unless you get cheap-ass OEM, the most of the time, the cables come with the hardware. But for powersupplies, I recommend ANTEC. They have true power readings not the peak performance that alot of power packs advertise. I mean, they will run happily at 450w without breaking a sweat whereas the generic will hit 450w and smoke and burn.



ive been told they are good thats all. didnt know you could get a HD that big? i just thought id ask on here first before i went shoppin about cause there is a few people on here that know what they are talkin about and i dont want to buy stuff that isnt gonna work.

thanks for the replys so far


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Its just that SCSI is mainly for servers not home pcs.

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May as well post this here to save posting a whole new topic.

How dangerous is it to stick your hands in your pc without an anti static band and mat... Unadvisable?


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unadvisable but not dangerous i wouldnt have thought

edit, as long as you dont touch anything lol




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Edited by - Jax on 2005/11/01 11:01:32
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Posted - 2005/11/01 :  11:11:44  Show profile  Send a private message
*edit* crap link

check out currys and look for the Compaq SR 1619 Unit.

just bought this the other week, cheap as chips if you keep your old monitor - only £400 for the base unit and it'll do basically anything you need it to.


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Sapphire PURE CrossFire Radeon Xpress 200P CrossFire 99.82
processor AMD Sempron 64 3ghz 64.57
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 120gb 50.82
Leadtek GeForce 6200 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (AGP) 46.94
Samsung SH-152AEBUW 52x CD-ROM 10.75
LG GSA-4167BAL 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter 31.25
Enermax CS-527 Case Black No PSU 35.19
Samsung Original 512MB DDR2 35.19
power packs on ebay are 20

total 400 give or take

is there anything that isnt compatable there?


cheers


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Edited by - Jax on 2005/11/01 11:18:40
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quote:
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May as well post this here to save posting a whole new topic.

How dangerous is it to stick your hands in your pc without an anti static band and mat... Unadvisable?



It's fine just touch the sides of your cases or file cabinet, you will find most people dont even use them. I don't and I'm always messing with mine and it's still sweet.


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^^^ Ok nice one cheers. I've only ever worked on PC's in places where i've had anti static equipement available and was always told to use them so didn't know if I should buy some or not.

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