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ecstatic_manic_erocdrah
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 Posted - 2005/11/29 : 20:19:37
why are there so many random labels just poppin up? They here to stay? Will the producers actually become something? Is it good or bad? seems to me like just overnight labels. I really don't bother to expect to much from thos elabels.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 20:33:21
It's a good thing IMO, why complain about having more good hardcore tunes to listen to?
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Mortis
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 20:33:32
New labels are always good, imagine how dull music would be if it was the same labels releasing tracks all of the time. Most established labels hardly ever sign up new talent, so the small labels are often the best for new and exciting material.
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Jax
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 20:33:46
i think these digital label's are going to help keep the scene going strong! and they also give dj's a wider vareity of music to choose from which i think is a good thing 
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Da Cunney Bugz
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 20:37:23
bit of a foolish point i reckon, if you didnt have different recored labels then i reckon there would not be any variation in the genre at all and it would become bland, you different record labels to sign different styles of artist
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Evel
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 21:36:42
Some labels like Warehouse wax are bringing back early 90s breakbeat hardcore which is a good thing imo. Some lables just make the same tracks over and over so it's good to have some labels trying new things, or trying to rivive older styles of hardcore which some labels and producers feel are 'in the past'
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billybigballs2005
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 21:39:19
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Originally posted by ecstatic_manic_erocdrah:
why are there so many random labels just poppin up? They here to stay? Will the producers actually become something? Is it good or bad? seems to me like just overnight labels. I really don't bother to expect to much from thos elabels.
...and the assclown award of the day goes to the "ecstatic_manic"!
Well done!
I cant for the life of me figure out if your saying "I really dont bother to expect to much from those labels" or "I really dont bother to expect to much from those e-labels"..
To make matters worse Im not sure exactly what to make of a backwards sentence like "I really dont bother to expect to much" in the first place.
New labels are always good things, showcase for new talent, a place to try new idea's with smaller circulations (or just online sales) therefore taking the pressure off simply throwing out a generic-vocal-cheese-meister to pay the bills.
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SixFeet
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Posted - 2005/11/29 : 23:13:11
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
New labels are always good, imagine how dull music would be if it was the same labels releasing tracks all of the time. Most established labels hardly ever sign up new talent, so the small labels are often the best for new and exciting material.
quoted for absolute, 100% volume, truthfulness
more labels = more variety
these smaller labels are free to produce what they want as the sale of their records isn't their main source of income so they have no restraints in what they produce and are able to push boundaries more than the people on the labels that in order to pay the bills have to sell their records.
i hope all these smaller labels become quite established but not firmly established as otherwise the same thing would happen to them as it does with the bigger labels. it is these guys at the smaller labels that make the music for their love of it and for that i applaud them
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ecstatic_manic_erocdrah
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 00:02:25
ok wtf? do you f\/cking people ever get rid of dissing on just genuine answers and questions?.. did I ever say it was bad thing I was typing for anyones view I NEVER SAID IT WAS A BAD THING AT ALL JUST WEIRD. wow you people need to chillout! F\/cking-a I give up*
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Brian K
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 00:51:03
you never said it but you asked if it was...your comments saying that you don't expect much from the labels leans kind of on saying it's a bad thing though
they may be overnight labels but how do you know if these producers have been writing tunes for a while and are just now getting them published?
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 01:12:10
billybigballs2005, I like your style 
I think having more labels is a good thing. As people have said, it helps showcase unheard talent. But sometimes, they aren't up to the same quality as whats going in the scene.
I guess for me, if I were to start a label, it would be because I've exhauted all other options in getting my music out there. I think other producers should do the same. Rather than re-inventing the wheel and learning about the dirty music business the hard way, joining a label that will help you, promote you and take care of you is a much better option.
The problem I find with digital labels is that... I don't know anything about them!! I don't often go to trackitdown, or imodownload to check out the latest, mainly just check these, or hear things through word-of-mouth.
Digital labels dont have the same hype yet, at least not for hardcore. I think until a huge name goes digital, and gets a fair money from it, its not going to be a completely respected medium. I think the industry is playing catch up to the pirates, and is sadly too late to change the pirate mindset.
On the other hand, I think changing from being simply producers to fully fledged artists is where its at. An artist is flexible, who produces a variety of songs from a variety of genres is the future. Making his/her money from gigs, tshirt sales, DVDs, and all the other entertainment extras, not so much the sales of music.
But hey, thats me. Thats what I want to do in the some what distant future.
Nowadays with the advent of the internet, the money is not made soley from music. Its made from all forms of entertainment and giving it to the people in the way they want.
Ok, thats enough ranting.
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ecstatic_manic_erocdrah
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 Posted - 2005/11/30 : 06:48:54
quote:
Originally posted by Brian K:
you never said it but you asked if it was...your comments saying that you don't expect much from the labels leans kind of on saying it's a bad thing though
they may be overnight labels but how do you know if these producers have been writing tunes for a while and are just now getting them published?
Yeah, I typed that like if it was a bad thing but just seemed odd to have labels do pop up I guess but I guess they have to come up sooner or later. I guess I looked at it as a ignorant way that why I sorta wanted to see anyone who felt like it was a random to have labels just pop up. But yeah for sure Brian you are right never thought "they may be overnight labels but how do you know if these producers have been writing tunes for a while and are just now getting them published?". Wow, well I'll just sit down now.
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 07:25:05
it's free-er to make a digital label over a label that presses tunes on vinyl, vinyl is very very expensive and the concept of having to pay to press on it left alot of people not wanting to take the risk of pressing a vinyl that may not sell. digital format does not require great fee's to set up and if it doesn't sell then you won't lose your ass. The digital age has liberated people to release more music. Now mind you, more does not always mean better, it will just make you look harder for the tunes that are any good.
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ryg0r
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 08:17:25
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Originally posted by ecstatic_manic_erocdrah:
. But yeah for sure Brian you are right never thought "they may be overnight labels but how do you know if these producers have been writing tunes for a while and are just now getting them published?". Wow, well I'll just sit down now.
Does it even matter if its a good tunes? Surely being a digital label, you can potentially have a greater selection of listeners.
Seriously, who cares how long people have been doing music for, or what genre they might produce so long as they are good tunes?
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dj switchback
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 09:22:18
Jesus what a post. How can too many labels be bad/weird?
Vinyl sales have been in decline for years. Most labels dont even break even.
More digital labels will be created in 2006,and only a handful of labels will still release vinyl,as there is no profit to be made.
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billybigballs2005
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Posted - 2005/11/30 : 14:01:32
Read and re-read everything rygor and switchback said, its all true.
However..
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Originally posted by ecstatic_manic_erocdrah:
ok wtf? do you f\/cking people ever get rid of dissing on just genuine answers and questions?.. did I ever say it was bad thing I was typing for anyones view I NEVER SAID IT WAS A BAD THING AT ALL JUST WEIRD. wow you people need to chillout! F\/cking-a I give up*
You sound like a gremlin thats just fallen into a tub of water and has started to mutate into, jeez, I dont know, some type of super-pissed 12 year old?
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