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 Posted - 2006/04/12 : 13:38:55
Yeah was mainly DnB, Oldskool, Garage and cheesey hardcore and dance but the odd hard set was played which was quality.
I didn't realise Garage was still listened to anywhere  Am really quite surprised to hear it's still "big" somewhere. I really hope they don't start putting garage rooms at raves again... Where always full of pricks. I've never heard any grime and I don't think I'll be bothering to seek any out either.
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Chris B
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 13:52:35
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2HTQ200RCUCLO1FAHBF83IJRYX
theres a link to a grime track some of my mates made, i quite like some of it but aye is very mc based.
I go to college with those lads some are good and some arent as, at 1 mins 35 my mate shax comes in and he's a talented boy.
Grime/garage is still very alive and kicking round here, think its banned from events cos of trouble but they still love it and is all over the pirates and stuff like that.
is a lot of shit stuff coming out but you just need to look at the new releases of hardcore to no that doesnt mean all of its shit, look far enough and its got some talented lyricists who can tell good stories
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 14:08:51
I'll listen to it when I get home :). The main reason I'm so against it is that I cant hack anything too "rude boy" puts me straight off (especially the mc's!). One of my mates used to listen to allot of the older underground garage and I have to admit that some of it was pretty good. I did have to laugh one time though when I heard an entire set that was all Oldskool Hardcore tunes but remixed with garage breaks and bass Don't know if it was intentional or what.
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 14:16:09
THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!
radio 1 ent commercail as everyone says it is... agreed lol
but then again it don't matter... i mean look at gallaxy... its the ghetto radio lol scum will listen to it as for the Hiphop/rnb culture
where as radio one is mostly around genine & down to earth listeners witch is the people we wanna atract... this is wikid news :D
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 14:27:41
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where as radio one is mostly around genine & down to earth listeners witch is the people we wanna atract... this is wikid news :D
i dont think they'll be interested if they play upfront tbh, its a dave pearce show and people aint gonna listen unless its tunes they no. The public no oldschool cos it gets played in clubs and pubs, hardcores only really played by schoolkids and hardcore ravers. Only people that could get converted to new hardcore are people who like scouse house or hard dance, the rest have about as much interest in hardcore as you's do in there music.
and you've about as much chance of getting the early morning shows playing crazy frog as happy or uk hardcore. The people running those shows like hard rock music which is about as far away from trance strings and cheesy vocals about "flying to the sky" and "angels" as you can get, give them hardcore techno and they love it but would never get uk hardcore on there.
keep requesting but dave pearce changed from hardcore/rave a long time ago, his records wont be new so apart from kutski's part of the show it'll be early 90's anthems.
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 16:37:22
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Originally posted by Sk8SiM:
where as radio one is mostly around genine & down to earth listeners witch is the people we wanna atract... this is wikid news :D
i dont think they'll be interested if they play upfront tbh, its a dave pearce show and people aint gonna listen unless its tunes they no. The public no oldschool cos it gets played in clubs and pubs, hardcores only really played by schoolkids and hardcore ravers. Only people that could get converted to new hardcore are people who like scouse house or hard dance, the rest have about as much interest in hardcore as you's do in there music.
and you've about as much chance of getting the early morning shows playing crazy frog as happy or uk hardcore. The people running those shows like hard rock music which is about as far away from trance strings and cheesy vocals about "flying to the sky" and "angels" as you can get, give them hardcore techno and they love it but would never get uk hardcore on there.
keep requesting but dave pearce changed from hardcore/rave a long time ago, his records wont be new so apart from kutski's part of the show it'll be early 90's anthems.
true yeah :) but its better to dish it them on the plate then brainwash them or evan worse... change the hardcore sound to get more people into it :P lol
the way i see it... feed it them on a plate... if they like it they like it... if they don't they don't... but if they do... then there gonna more likly wnanna reasearch and get more into it...
where as the listeners on gallaxy will just listen to it in the car or something and be all like "yeahhh man this is sick"... but won't really look into it...
also... its good playing the oldskool first.... as for the new stuff yeah i fully agree... only cuse the nu skool hardcore to the genre public really does sound like trance music (or to them sounds the same!)... most people that listen to it spes the people in the "rock" cultures will first off say "omg its dirty trance music..." however play themn oldskool happy hardcore and the complete chesse factor is what brings them in... people like stuff thats diffrent... stuff that they ent herd before and something out and this world... that was what happy hardcore was before and thats what got me into it... the fact it made me bounce smile and feel good about myself...
people will either like it or hate it... but like i say... the ones that will like it will be thinking "wow i really wanna find more out about this" only to do that and find its changed lol... into the newskool... i.e. why pricks listening to on gallaxy would love... cuse to them "it all sounds the same" (full on pricks)...
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 17:00:23
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cuse to them "it all sounds the same"
New hardcore does all sound the same 
In 10 years time looking back at 2004 -2006 I think there will be very few songs that stand out as unique.
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 17:31:17
cant really say that though dave mate, to us it sounds the same cos we dont like it.
bouncy techno's very repetitive and predictable, but cos i love it i still enjoy finding different stuff. Other people think gabbers all the same just noise but theres so much more to it, think its just when you dont like something it all sounds the same.
i still listen to shitloads of good stuff from 2004-2006 aswell just not the typical uk style.
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 17:52:04
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cant really say that though dave mate, to us it sounds the same cos we dont like it.
bouncy techno's very repetitive and predictable, but cos i love it i still enjoy finding different stuff. Other people think gabbers all the same just noise but theres so much more to it, think its just when you dont like something it all sounds the same.
i still listen to shitloads of good stuff from 2004-2006 aswell just not the typical uk style.
Dont get us wrong baldo there is a fair bit of decent stuff as well, i mean i've only been buyin vinyl for a few years and i've got a canny few tunes from 2004 - 2006.
But what I mean is the majority of it seems to be made around a set template and all that gets varied is a differnet vocal snippet, slighlty different melody, but it seems like the layouts are nearly all the same and that ****in trance synth that seems to get used on nearly every tune makes us want to cut my ears off.
I know a lot of people think its the bollox but to me it just seems like theres no passion goin into any of the songs, and loads of people may like them now but I cant really think of many going down as classics in the same way that the older style did.
ps. On a positive note Heaven 7 - This Life has just been pressed up, that'll be 1 worth buyin... lush vocals 
*edit* 1 more thought i had.... maybe the old stuff seems better because I wasnt there 1st time round, i'm just pickin it up off sets and other peoples reccomendations so someone else has allready picked the good stuff from the bad.
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Posted - 2006/04/12 : 22:15:01
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the majority of it seems to be made around a set template and all that gets varied is a differnet vocal snippet, slighlty different melody, but it seems like the layouts are nearly all the same and that ****in trance synth that seems to get used on nearly every tune makes us want to cut my ears off.
aye its shit no arguments from me, most the big lables have used the same template and sounds for years with little variation. Thing is though that happens with most sub genres, bouncy techno, trance, makina, nu style all have loads of very middle of the road tracks, just standard formula stuff.
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I know a lot of people think its the bollox but to me it just seems like theres no passion goin into any of the songs, and loads of people may like them now but I cant really think of many going down as classics in the same way that the older style did.
real old school (89-94) will always be the classics that get remembered the most, it was a totally new thing to britain, rave scene was massive and the music was good.
Personally i love the mid 90's bouncy techno/gabber and a lot of the old happy, but it was when happy took over that things have got a lot smaller. The latye 90's cheese is the stuff i hate the most, total lullabys and full songs of vocals over weak beats its shit.
2001 or whatever a lot more releases came out and the styles and formulas were now sick of sounded really new and fresh, when i first started going to over 18's raves and musically i loved it. Loads of these tracks will be remembered as classics to people who started raving at this time
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ps. On a positive note Heaven 7 - This Life has just been pressed up, that'll be 1 worth buyin... lush vocals
mibbe mate i'll try hear it but i dont buy new uk stuff anymore, just the odd bit of freeform and breaks i like
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*edit* 1 more thought i had.... maybe the old stuff seems better because I wasnt there 1st time round, i'm just pickin it up off sets and other peoples reccomendations so someone else has allready picked the good stuff from the bad.
defo true for a lot of it, especially the most wanted tracks that have gone up in value are cream of the crop. Certain years have been good and certain years have been bad. Best way to see is listen to all the tapes from an old rez pack or whatever then listen to all the tapes out a new one. I no i'd prefer the old stuff but gives you a better idea of what was getting played and not just the stuff thats stood the test of time.
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Posted - 2006/04/13 : 00:03:04
Baldo always makes sense (seperated at birth me thinks only hes been in a testube for 14 years lol ) but hardcore at the mo is very diluted! the beauty of it though is you here that track and wow! but a lot of people will here the show on sunday who left any form of the scene in early 90's and it will bring back memories for them! so even when he plays the decadance top 10 someone somewhere will think yeah!
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Posted - 2006/04/13 : 00:34:30
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Baldo always makes sense (seperated at birth me thinks only hes been in a testube for 14 years lol )
innit mate i was locked away and missed out on the golden years of rave. just my luck 
thing is i still really enjoy raving now and a lot of the new music, its not good to concentrate on what we dont like any of us on this thread. I listen to old hardcore every day but also love some of the new gabber, freeform, breakbeat hardcore etc and still love going out to raves.
Theres still loadsa dj's that rock my world when i hear them live, so is daft to say all hardcores shit now just because i dont like whats popular. For all raverbaby gets more people into hardcore, the more gabber dj's htid can book in. It's a good thing that hardcore gets bigger, whatever way that happens i think, cos it means more events booking more dj's to play all different styles.
I've got to see marc smith rez set and sharkey old trancecore all at an event for free, things are good at the minute.
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Posted - 2006/04/13 : 20:54:56
A little birdie tells me that it may be a fair bet to expect some pianoey/vocaly happy stuff........ and that is genuine...... I'm looking forward to this!
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Posted - 2006/04/13 : 23:45:09
yeah! think it will let Daves 99% audience listen to some quality tunes that they have never heard which is always good! from what I've heard off R1 it might play a few more hardcore tracks than usual so even though we,ve all heard them a 1000 times Mr average trance pants might say f**k me this is different!
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Posted - 2006/04/16 : 20:47:09
Really enjoying this nice to hear a load of classics, kutskis just getting into an oldschool mix highly recommended for anyone not doing anything.
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