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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2007/11/25 :  21:55:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
To join in with the bump it seems that Hardcore is biger than 5-6 years ago and I thought Hardcore was 'dead' in 2001 except for then then new Raverbaby releses and Freeform! Bonkers 8 (The Rezurection) was the first 'comeback' Bonkers which bust have sounded very new at the time compared to Sy's Old Skool Bonkers 1 & Bonkers 2 mix (the mix where he mixed classics from the first two Bonkers) Now Freeform from back then is 'Old Skool' & I use the term (get ready to hate me) 'Old Skool Upfront' for the early Raverbaby (& similar) stuff from the 2000-2003 era which at the time was really adavnced compared to the 1990s but is now a bit dated!

Shame Happy hardcore hasnt returned but interest in Hardcore from the 1990s is large!



'sigh' Smoogles, the majority is still just as happy. "Surrender" by Al Storm is a nice cheesy track. Maybe if they would stop bogging down every track with that synth between the beats, it might sound better.


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Edited by - warped_candykid on 2007/11/25 21:57:26
SiEnTiFiC
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Posted - 2007/11/25 :  23:17:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SiEnTiFiC's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Jay-Owen:
I could see magazines like Mixmag starting proper coverage on HHC and it getting more popular. However, I don't see it becoming mainstream or anything like that



Mixmag used to cover HHC pretty well (have no clue nowdays, not read mixmag this millenia)

Had it's own new releases review section and a few articles on it


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StrifeII
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Posted - 2007/11/25 :  23:27:42  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit StrifeII's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by oldskool:
quote:
Originally posted by Soren:

Yyyyeeeessss..... Incubate it in the Underground until it's ripe for world domination!!! Mwwwaahahahhaaahha!!! I see it now, HHC growing into a huge supraluminous beast, bursting from the earth, and destroying those pesky power rangers. Then it can devour the secondary targets like: Tight jeans, Garage, Anti-Rave t-shiets, Deep house, PMA, all the governments of the world, and Barny (He is truely evil!!!).

In the next few years, i think Drum N Bass will still be underground and so will Jungle/Techstep/Hardstep/Darkstep/Weirdstep,etc.. but Happy Hard Might Return with a Vengeance!!

Ahhh... It WILL BE a glorious rebirth!!! ^_^





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Hahah ah man, I remember this guy! he used to have me in tears and silver just used to basically take digs at him for the entertainment of the forum members (such as reducing his post count by 1000) :P

Interesting bump yeah, bit of a time capsule thing going on here. I reakon hardcore is destined for greater things myself, straying away from the trancey hardcore area and artists starting to make original and different music whilst still being just within the genre guidelines. Take a look at The Panacea (not strictly hardcore I know), Cube::Hard, Orbit1, Reese...more original artists gaining more and more popularity. I think we're in the midst of a takeover...


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Posted - 2007/11/27 :  10:47:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit FingazMc's homepage  Reply with quote
My personal opinion of hardcore in the future is:
In about 2 years a new style of music will come along as a fad for chavs, popularity will dwindle again and it wont be "cool" to play hardcore out your stereo or on your phone in the street to annoy OAP's anymore. The scene will still be big but it'll be full of old skool ravers and the newbie's that have found there calling when it comes to musical taste.

The thing you have to remember about hardcore is its a "classic" style of music, its not like hip hop or urban type of music. You dont get rideculed for not having the "freshest beat" on your playlist. Hardcore ravers are like the uncle that always listens to the stones even tho there well past there sell by date, il still be ravin to the '90's sound in my armchair and slippers you can count on that!!


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Edited by - FingazMc on 2007/11/27 10:49:08
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Posted - 2007/11/27 :  12:39:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit redwingz's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by FingazMc:

The thing you have to remember about hardcore is its a "classic" style of music, its not like hip hop or urban type of music. You dont get rideculed for not having the "freshest beat" on your playlist. Hardcore ravers are like the uncle that always listens to the stones even tho there well past there sell by date, il still be ravin to the '90's sound in my armchair and slippers you can count on that!!




Sooooo True, hardcore is a genre were the tracks never get old and every1 still loves to hear the older stuff. when im 50, ill be boring my kids wiv my massive collection of hardcore. its like, i used to go out with a girl who is into electro house, a genre that has really gained popularity recently, and will no doubt lose is again soon. she loved that fedde le grand tune wen it came out, the detroit one, every1 into that music did. now she hates it, becoz its 'old' and shes heard it too much. that doesnt happen in hardcore. i loved the tune 'all about you' by scott brown wen it first came out and it still gives me goosebumps wen i listen to it now! and thats not even that old, but its way older than fedde le bland


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xpinkyogurtx
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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  03:01:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit xpinkyogurtx's homepage  Reply with quote
wel, here, me being only 13 i love a lot of hhc, gammer, styes, hixxy, them mostly.

i dont really know a lot oabout older hhc
i know this one song called wonderland from a cd called rave hits of the 90's
i used to love it, not sure if its old hhc though.
but nobody here i know gives it 30 secs, only like 2 people i know wil actually give it a few minutes.
maybe it has to do with popularity by age??
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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  03:51:28  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit silver's homepage  Reply with quote
In a few years this website will be older than some of it's members haha :)



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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  04:29:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TypeR's homepage  Reply with quote
I love seeing classic happy hardcore being played at events, and hope more people do it into the future. It's hard to find, so maybe producers will start making it again.

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Vitalism
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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  05:56:55  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
can you explain your definition of "classic" bobby?

(specific artists, time period, track names)

i like oldskool, but i draw a line somewhere... not sure where that is, but there's oldskool happy hardcore (like tracks with lyrics) and then there's oldskool rave music with pianos (i'm not such a big fan of this stuff)


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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  06:01:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TypeR's homepage  Reply with quote
94-98 hardcore, artists like Brisk, Trixxy, Sy, Demo, Fade, the likes.

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Mental_Adam
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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  06:10:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mental_Adam's homepage  Reply with quote
Don't Forget.

DJ Force & The Evolution

They had a wicked collection of tunes


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Originally posted by djbrownieboy:
Don't Forget.

DJ Force & The Evolution

They had a wicked collection of tunes



And how could I forget Force and Style



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Vitalism
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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  07:00:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vitalism's homepage  Reply with quote
cool. everyone has their own definition of "classic" hardcore. for me, anything pre 1995 is getting a little too old.

i dunno, personally, the KFA sounding hardcore does not really do it for me, which is something i consider to have a pre '95 kinda sound (even tho i realize a lot probably came out later). please correct me if i'm wrong which i probably am.

there's good piano/breakbeat kinda hardcore and then there's just bad. and the really pitched up vocals of that style really bother me. anyone else kinda even know what i'm talking about here?

anything that was released '95-'00 is what i consider oldskool (releases on the 2000 end of that are kinda pushing the limits) but i guess it's all relative to what time you got into hardcore... that time period is where all the "classics" come from in my opinion.



just wanted to double check with you tho


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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  10:30:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
quote:
Originally posted by Smoogie:
To join in with the bump it seems that Hardcore is biger than 5-6 years ago and I thought Hardcore was 'dead' in 2001 except for then then new Raverbaby releses and Freeform! Bonkers 8 (The Rezurection) was the first 'comeback' Bonkers which bust have sounded very new at the time compared to Sy's Old Skool Bonkers 1 & Bonkers 2 mix (the mix where he mixed classics from the first two Bonkers) Now Freeform from back then is 'Old Skool' & I use the term (get ready to hate me) 'Old Skool Upfront' for the early Raverbaby (& similar) stuff from the 2000-2003 era which at the time was really adavnced compared to the 1990s but is now a bit dated!

Shame Happy hardcore hasnt returned but interest in Hardcore from the 1990s is large!



'sigh' Smoogles, the majority is still just as happy. "Surrender" by Al Storm is a nice cheesy track. Maybe if they would stop bogging down every track with that synth between the beats, it might sound better.



I agree! When I hear a 'Trancy synth' I turn to the next track (and in the case of Clubland every track will be skipped past lol) We need more Off key stabs & Techno riffs! Dosnt matter if it sounds 'Old Skool' I sont hear any Emos complaining about Emo music making a comeback!


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Posted - 2007/11/28 :  11:03:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Xanergy's homepage  Reply with quote
I really enjoi hardcore. Of course, why else would I or anyone else be here? Anyway, I was really surprised to see that this website was this old and how far the "techno" genre has come. I had no idea. I guess the start of this topic was actually something more interesting and noteworthy than the original poster had hoped. I think the first time I ever really got into this type of music was back in the day listening to Bonkers XI: Forevolution. Ever since then, I've been into all this hardcore stuff. Not quite 5 years ago but definitely enough time for Hardcore to continue to progress.

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Edited by - Xanergy on 2007/11/28 11:04:33



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