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Audio Specialist
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 Posted - 2008/07/25 : 08:27:55
Hi I'm a DJ and still new to it (well not very but still am), was wondering how can I get my mixes sounding all the same level instead of some parts louder than the other. I notice that some bassline or songs like 'Sy & Unknown have very loud mastering' how would I level them?
When gaining an incoming song, do I find it's highest peak like bass, kick, melody etc... then I level it with the other song on it's breakdown?
Hope someone can help me on this one. I am so shit at keeping songs the same level. :(
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danjel
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Posted - 2008/07/25 : 09:32:13
Training, training, and even more training.
And its not the biggest thing in the world if the next tune sound a little bit louder then the last as long as you not blow any speakers ;)
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Mortis
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Posted - 2008/07/25 : 10:22:46
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Originally posted by danjel:
Training, training, and even more training.
As is most things when you are mixing. It takes time to get all of the little things in order, I wouldn't worry too much about levels if your new to DJ'ing it will come in time.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2008/07/25 : 19:51:01
many mixers have an LED panel that lights up in direct relation to volume level.
it's not always 100% correct but visually gives you a much better idea of what you're aiming for, level-wise.
as someone new to DJing, i'd look at that.
another way to do it by ear is, put the track you're mixing into to the meatier part of the track (the middle or something) and when they are both playing, make sure that one doesn't drown out the other. that's another good estimation
like danjel said, it's all practice.
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DJ_Axiom
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Posted - 2008/07/25 : 22:25:14
quote:
Originally posted by Vitalism:
many mixers have an LED panel that lights up in direct relation to volume level.
it's not always 100% correct but visually gives you a much better idea of what you're aiming for, level-wise.
as someone new to DJing, i'd look at that.
another way to do it by ear is, put the track you're mixing into to the meatier part of the track (the middle or something) and when they are both playing, make sure that one doesn't drown out the other. that's another good estimation
like danjel said, it's all practice.
Yea, my mixer has the LED bars to tell me if Im redlining or not. I turn my master volume to about 10:30 and then I put the gains where they are just redlining the slightest bit.
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Audio Specialist
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Posted - 2008/07/25 : 23:37:30
You guys have to understand, you cannot practice something in the wrong way. If you practice something the wrong way you won't get no where.
Also there are songs out there that are really weak mastering, loud mastering... how do you deal with that? I notice that weak songs I gain it to 0db and it's still soft.
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Edited by - Audio Specialist on 2008/07/25 23:43:14 |
MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2008/07/26 : 01:34:34
To deal with different mastering volumes, you adjust your gain levels and your EQ's, there's nothing else to it.
I use my LED panel lights as reference like Vitalism mentionned, and I make adjustments as I bring in the song.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2008/07/26 : 22:57:02
am I the only one who thought this was a funny topic by someone named 'audio specialist'? =P
if the bass is loud, turn the bass down. if the track is soft, turn the gain of that channel up so it is close to the level of the song playing then work with the high, mids, & lows from there
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/07/27 : 08:25:41
quote:
Originally posted by Audio Specialist:
You guys have to understand, you cannot practice something in the wrong way. If you practice something the wrong way you won't get no where.
Wait wait lets hold up a second.
You're the one asking the question.... We don't "have to understand" anything. Nobody has told you the wrong way to do it so how does practicing the wrong thing come into it?
Just for your information - there isnt really a "right" or "wrong" way to mixing. If its works, do it.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2008/07/27 : 09:42:34
I have that sometimes, some tracks are louder than others! I usualy do a test run of a few tracks & take note of what might sound a bit loud! I sometimes try to make the next track a bit quiter & increase the volume very slowley!
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Relish
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Posted - 2008/07/27 : 10:03:34
or if you intend to burn your mixes to a cd, try to look for a 'Normalise' feature on your burning software (thats what its called on Nero).
This sorts out some of the peaks and troughs for you but im not sure how good it would be if the difference was massive.
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danjel
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Posted - 2008/07/27 : 10:58:22
quote:
Originally posted by Relish:
or if you intend to burn your mixes to a cd, try to look for a 'Normalise' feature on your burning software (thats what its called on Nero).
This sorts out some of the peaks and troughs for you but im not sure how good it would be if the difference was massive.
Are you not loosing quality of the tune if you do like that? I dont think thats a very good idea.
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Mortis
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Posted - 2008/07/27 : 15:51:13
quote:
Originally posted by Influx:
quote:
Originally posted by Audio Specialist:
You guys have to understand, you cannot practice something in the wrong way. If you practice something the wrong way you won't get no where.
Wait wait lets hold up a second.
You're the one asking the question.... We don't "have to understand" anything. Nobody has told you the wrong way to do it so how does practicing the wrong thing come into it?
Just for your information - there isnt really a "right" or "wrong" way to mixing. If its works, do it.
Saved me a job, thank you Influx.
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silver
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Posted - 2008/07/28 : 08:42:13
Use your ears, if the track you're mixing in is louder than the track playing adjust the gain.
If you're really worried, test the mix before you commit to it, tease or cut parts of the other track in to test volume before you start the mix.
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Simon098
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Posted - 2008/08/14 : 17:07:22
Look at some of the tutorials that DJ Tutor does on youtube.
Look up ellaskins or DJ Tutor. He has over 1500 videos dedicated to DJing. lol
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2008/08/14 : 19:04:40
Pioneer mixers have LED meters on each channel.
You can use that but if tracks have varying levels on compression (in terms of mastering), it won't mean that much. A good idea is to play both in the headphones at once and try to match them up that way. If you're playing vinyl, it usually doesn't vary all that much, I find.
With CDs, make sure you normalize all your CDs and you should be fine.
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