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redwingz
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 Posted - 2008/11/19 : 12:13:59
Ok so whilst trying to think of different ways to promote my label NSR Records, the idea of rather than spending money on advertising, investing in music was put to me.
Maybe getting producers to remix current NSR releases etc.
so.......if anyone would be interested please PM me or email [email protected]
Basically I want to know....How much you charge for a remix (including any royalities you expect)? What you need to do a remix? A timeframe of how long it takes? and anything else you feel is necessary.
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Deverse
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 Posted - 2008/11/19 : 14:09:38
Ok 1st of, I've seen so many threads by you about this NSR thing. It's kinda getting annoying now...
First off, is this a fake label? - Cause I've seen so many fake labels being made up and half the tunes are ****ING SHITE!!!
So if it's a fake label then forget about it cause so many fake labels going on now and it's getting no where, you just put tunes up on IMO and IMO takes ya tax, but no real money going to the producers or anything... :(
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Starstruck
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 14:35:20
Personally i don't know if it's wise to hand out remixes to random people, such as handing out remix gear such as midi and vocals which very well may be copyrighted, in the rights of the producer, let alone having to go through agreements and notification in order to use the samples for the remix, or how far you can go with it, there are some vocalists out there that dont like their voices being mucked with, such as cut up and pitch altered, it's a serious form of moral rights and it's the number 3, integrity of artwork.
i think you should maybe get some advice or more knowledge on the subject.. I know it's a digital label but copyright is copyright and im just sayin, you know..
For a remix it depends how people go, usually it's just an upfront payment and possibly an agreement signed stating what the remixer can do with the samples and with the remix etc, which is entirely up to whether the producer wants that to be the case.
But yeah..
Hey sorry for being somewhat rude im just trying to point you in the right direction ay.
Cheerz
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 16:03:07
Deverse - What the hell is a fake label? It is not a fake label, we release tracks, we have artists that have signed formal contracts, we sell on Juno and Imo and have an agreement with trackitdown to sell there too. I am also pushing to get on serious sounds. I have been getting invaluable advice and help from CDJay over at RFU Recordingz to makesure that we are not just another digi label that disappears after a couple of months.
Next year we plan to release a full length professionally made CD Compilation with professional artwork and packaging.....name me a fake label that does this.
At the end of the day mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is a forum, NSR is a hardcore label, if you are sick of hearing about it.....dont read my posts! Im not forcing you to read or comment on my posts. To be honest mate ive had a lot of support and good luck wishes, but u are being a bit of an ******* and seem to be the only person hating and posting negative comments over and over and over again. To be honest, im finding your posts a bit annoying too. On a forum, people can post what they like....within reason obviously....get over it.
Plus I dont see your problem. This is just a post about remixes and is not strictly specific to NSR anyway.
Starstruck - I fully understand what you mean about copyright, but my idea is to get an established artist to remix an already released NSR track that NSR owns the rights to (due to contractual agreement) and get the artist to agree to a remix, get it remixed and release the remix at a later date or push it to go on compilations. I didnt mean just remixing a kevin energy track and using that as an NSR release lol.
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Deverse
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 16:10:31
Ok 1st mate I speak what I feel, I'm not the type who say oh it's great when it's not.
Firstly, if it's such a real label then I'd like to know how much you're paying the producers and where are the vinyls and how much are sellouts you having atm? And you getting anything from it?
Secondly, you say you gonna have an album out? There's alot to go through to get albums out and about... or everyone would just be bringing a whole damn load of albums right?
Thirdly, get some good tunes on your label that are worth listening to... don't just get anyone and put them on cause most fake or non official labels atm all have shit mixdowns and when I buy it and mix it, just ruins my whole mix? - So get some good tunes on ya label and your label will be more recognized than you having to spam about it everytime and not having much replies to ya thread. Actions speaks louder than letters.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 16:24:54
Thats fine, u say what you feel and that is respectable and thats how it should be anyway. You cant honestly expect a brand new label to kick off and start signing Gammer and Joey Riot, you have to build up. People are buying the tracks and thats good and as for bulding a reputation....we are signing a track off SMS (HU2 and Hardcore Nation NG) very soon so that should be really good and a track off a very well established artist who many people respect but I am not sure he would like me to go shouting it yet until the track is finished.
I respect that you have the right to say what you want, all I am saying is dont judge a label by its very first releases, some people like the releases some wont, but somewhere down the line there will be releases that you do like.
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Audio X
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 16:28:50
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Originally posted by Deverse:
Firstly, if it's such a real label then I'd like to know how much you're paying the producers and where are the vinyls and how much are sellouts you having atm?
I just want to point this out -- loads of "real" labels don't release vinyl anymore. It's a fact that people just don't want to shell out the money for a heavy slab of plastic anymore, and digital releases have steadily seen growing sales across the board. Get used to it. It's the way of the future.
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Deverse
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 16:41:16
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Originally posted by Audio X:
I just want to point this out -- loads of "real" labels don't release vinyl anymore. It's a fact that people just don't want to shell out the money for a heavy slab of plastic anymore, and digital releases have steadily seen growing sales across the board. Get used to it. It's the way of the future.
Yeh only for core. :(
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Torpex
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 17:27:05
Most dance styles are increasingly turning to the digital side. The sole fact that a label doesn't release vinyl doesn't automatically make it shit. Yes, many digital labels are crap, but definitely not all. :)
What's more, NSR seems to be about more experimental and not very typical stuff. This approach lowers the sales and makes releasing vinyl even more pointless. Even the major upfront labels are struggling to make ends meet, how can you expect a not-so-upfront bedroom project - probably without serious funding - to make it?
redwingz - while I admire your passion and energy, it'd be good to ask around among major label owners about some standards in the biz. Remixes are usually ordered by labels from specific artists. If you want to go experimental and do it the other way around, I guess it's fine too, but you might have a hard time getting serious producers to get in touch without even showing what tunes you'd like remixed. You know, if you want to be professional, do it the pro way. :) Good luck, I for one am on the lookout for future NSR stuff.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 17:49:56
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Originally posted by Torpex:
Most dance styles are increasingly turning to the digital side. The sole fact that a label doesn't release vinyl doesn't automatically make it shit. Yes, many digital labels are crap, but definitely not all. :)
What's more, NSR seems to be about more experimental and not very typical stuff. This approach lowers the sales and makes releasing vinyl even more pointless. Even the major upfront labels are struggling to make ends meet, how can you expect a not-so-upfront bedroom project - probably without serious funding - to make it?
redwingz - while I admire your passion and energy, it'd be good to ask around among major label owners about some standards in the biz. Remixes are usually ordered by labels from specific artists. If you want to go experimental and do it the other way around, I guess it's fine too, but you might have a hard time getting serious producers to get in touch without even showing what tunes you'd like remixed. You know, if you want to be professional, do it the pro way. :) Good luck, I for one am on the lookout for future NSR stuff.
Cheers man and as ever thanks for the constructive feedback.
I think what you are saying is a good idea, there are one or two producers that I would really like to remix our tracks so I may ask them. Jakazid, Orbit1 and Silver come to mind!!!
With regards to future releases. DJ Corruption loves our forthcoming release 'Boomcore' he played it on happy nation radio today and is playing it at Happy Nation 30 in Vauxhall, London this Friday if any1 is off there.
Clips of that and the other two releases will be on the NSR site this week.
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Ken Masters
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 18:03:33
I'd be up for remixing a track Dreem. Its up to you mate. I know i'm not exactly Orbit 1 but i'd give it a go & if you like what you hear then we could take it further 
Also, i've checked out the tracks on this label & i'm well impressed. Rome wasn't built in a day & if you want to succeed, you have to keep pushing. Don't listen to every negative comments mate.
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 18:06:42
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Originally posted by Audio X:
quote:
Originally posted by Deverse:
Firstly, if it's such a real label then I'd like to know how much you're paying the producers and where are the vinyls and how much are sellouts you having atm?
I just want to point this out -- loads of "real" labels don't release vinyl anymore. It's a fact that people just don't want to shell out the money for a heavy slab of plastic anymore, and digital releases have steadily seen growing sales across the board. Get used to it. It's the way of the future.
Yeah, they want to shell out similar amounts of money for rights to a digital file with no resale value :P
The cost/track is almost the same for vinyl as for mp3s. Except vinyl has a resale value...
I mean, I still buy mp3s if it's the only option...or if I want to edit a track. But hardcore mp3s are so expensive it bothers me when people say that mp3s are so much cheaper.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 19:14:28
That's very true, mp3's @ some online stores are around 2GBP. For two songs, it's pretty much the price of a record. The main advantage of mp3's to me is the lack of shipping. My 12' orders are usually 1.5x more expensive just because of shipping cost oversea, so I tend to make them count :P
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 19:19:47
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
That's very true, mp3's @ some online stores are around 2GBP. For two songs, it's pretty much the price of a record. The main advantage of mp3's to me is the lack of shipping. My 12' orders are usually 1.5x more expensive just because of shipping cost oversea, so I tend to make them count :P
Exactly.
And yes, shipping is a ripoff.
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redwingz
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 19:46:58
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
That's very true, mp3's @ some online stores are around 2GBP. For two songs, it's pretty much the price of a record. The main advantage of mp3's to me is the lack of shipping. My 12' orders are usually 1.5x more expensive just because of shipping cost oversea, so I tend to make them count :P
MP3s are very expensive considering they have no resale value etc. That is why out releases are £1 on Imo and just 99p on Juno!
Ken - Thanks alot for the positive comments mate, I will no doubt contact u about a remix, if u get onto me by pm and lt me know which track you would like to remix
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Posted - 2008/11/19 : 20:36:06
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Thirdly, get some good tunes on your label that are worth listening to... don't just get anyone and put them on cause most fake or non official labels atm all have shit mixdowns and when I buy it and mix it, just ruins my whole mix? - So get some good tunes on ya label and your label will be more recognized than you having to spam about it everytime and not having much replies to ya thread. Actions speaks louder than letters.
Right, sorry.
I forgot what you like is what I like.
We can't have different opinions on a good track, amirite?
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