Posted - 2008/12/29 : 20:37:18
Hey, I'm interested in producing my own hardcore tracks and wonder if my 2.1 GHz MacBook would be up for it (sound card, processor, etc.)? It was bought in June this year, the previous version of MacBook priced £699, not one of the new ones recently brought out by Apple.
mitchy_boy Senior Member
Australia
381 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 10:45:17
hey man
from what ive herd, laptop/macbooks arent ideal for music production, because they can overheat, and also a lot of software isnt compatable for mac. but theres always logic, which ive herd is pretty good.
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 11:42:22
Yea dude it's ideal, I'm using a mac too for producing music, I recommend you to get either Logic Pro or Digital Performer ( which is as good as Logic ). And don't care about software compabilities, once you have Logic or DP you don't need to care about it any more, these 2 programs are better than everything I've ever tried on windows.
And it's not a problem if it's a laptop. Have you ever heard of Joachim Garraud ? He's one of the biggest House music DJs, producing together with David Guetta and I've watched a video where you see him producing music in a bus, on a macbook, before he's going on stage. So I think if he does that, it won't be a problem if you do so ;-) .
quote:I've watched a video where you see him producing music in a bus, on a macbook, before he's going on stage. So I think if he does that, it won't be a problem if you do so ;-) .
I doubt that will be the finished product, notebooks just do not have the power to run all the shit you need in production, they will overheat if you were to produce a professional fully mastered track. Desktop computers can be upgraded to have much better soundcards than notebooks which is important when producing and can generally handle more processing power.
Jax Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,676 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 13:30:06
quote:Originally posted by fenwick:
Hey, I'm interested in producing my own hardcore tracks and wonder if my 2.1 GHz MacBook would be up for it (sound card, processor, etc.)? It was bought in June this year, the previous version of MacBook priced £699, not one of the new ones recently brought out by Apple.
Thanks for your help!
I don't suppose you work for apple do you? I paid nearly half of your £700 on a PC laptop around a year and a half ago, it has a 2ghz core2duo processor and 2gb's of ram and has never maxed out while working in fl studio / cubase / google sketchup / photoshop and it has never, yes, not once has it ever crashed! How can a laptop cost twice as much a year and a half down the line and have almost the same specs? Well, it looks nice
Jax Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,676 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 13:31:36
quote:Originally posted by DJ Stitchy:
quote:I've watched a video where you see him producing music in a bus, on a macbook, before he's going on stage. So I think if he does that, it won't be a problem if you do so ;-) .
I doubt that will be the finished product, notebooks just do not have the power to run all the shit you need in production, they will overheat if you were to produce a professional fully mastered track. Desktop computers can be upgraded to have much better soundcards than notebooks which is important when producing and can generally handle more processing power.
Laptops can be upgraded to USB / Firewire cards, just like desktops.
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 14:15:19
I don't use a laptop for producing music, I'm just saying that it works. And I think that if a DJ who is known worldwide and more famous than anyone on this site ( because they are more people listening to House than Hardcore … ), it will work. No ?
Trimms Senior Member
United States
494 posts Joined: Aug, 2008
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 15:54:10
PC's are better because they have everything.
I bought a Mac thinking it would be better and realized I'd need another $3,000 worth of equipment and software to get good use out of it, whereas a PC I can just start making music immediately. I guess it depends on what you want to do though.
Posted - 2008/12/30 : 16:57:07
thanks for your input, guys! i'm in the process of installing windows onto my mac at the moment to run more programs, as most music production software is suited to windows rather than macs.
Jax Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2008/12/30 : 19:27:27
quote:Originally posted by fenwick:
thanks for your input, guys! i'm in the process of installing windows onto my mac at the moment to run more programs, as most music production software is suited to windows rather than macs.
why spend 699 on an apple then install windows?? most parts that go into making a mac are similar or the same as used on pc's
Essi Junior Member
Australia
83 posts Joined: Jun, 2007
Posted - 2009/01/01 : 02:16:03
you are kidding right macs are industry standard in any pro post production allot of the major plugins that are on PC are on MAC and in some cases mac has some plugins that PC doesn’t that are to die for.
windows is very flexible but not very stable you can run into allot of soft where conflicts if you have to many plugins which can result in random crashes of your DAW while macs dont i am not saying they never crash but they very rarely do.
as far as macbooks go you would have to get the pro series of mac books they are optimized for music and graphic production hence the name PRO they are perfect in 2.5d duo core 2 intel processors will ram upgradeable to 4 gig and hhd to 320 so look into them
Jax Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,676 posts Joined: Apr, 2005
Posted - 2009/01/01 : 02:42:39
quote:Originally posted by Essi:
you are kidding right macs are industry standard in any pro post production allot of the major plugins that are on PC are on MAC and in some cases mac has some plugins that PC doesn’t that are to die for.
windows is very flexible but not very stable you can run into allot of soft where conflicts if you have to many plugins which can result in random crashes of your DAW while macs dont i am not saying they never crash but they very rarely do.
as far as macbooks go you would have to get the pro series of mac books they are optimized for music and graphic production hence the name PRO they are perfect in 2.5d duo core 2 intel processors will ram upgradeable to 4 gig and hhd to 320 so look into them
i have 1 pc and 1 laptop, both on windows, both run fl studio and cubase, Loads of vst's. i have never had either program crash on me, once!
im not saying macs are shit, i am saying that they are hardly any better, if at all, so why pay the premium for the mac brand unless you have loads of disposable income?
whispering Moderator
Finland
8,453 posts Joined: Nov, 2002
Posted - 2009/01/01 : 09:36:24
quote:Originally posted by Essi:
you are kidding right macs are industry standard in any pro post production allot of the major plugins that are on PC are on MAC and in some cases mac has some plugins that PC doesn’t that are to die for.
windows is very flexible but not very stable you can run into allot of soft where conflicts if you have to many plugins which can result in random crashes of your DAW while macs dont i am not saying they never crash but they very rarely do.
as far as macbooks go you would have to get the pro series of mac books they are optimized for music and graphic production hence the name PRO they are perfect in 2.5d duo core 2 intel processors will ram upgradeable to 4 gig and hhd to 320 so look into them
Stop lying to yourself, Mac's crash just as much, if not more (assuming youre not a complete tool with computers). Its all down to personal preference, if you like to pay 100's of $ for the design, thats fine.
quote:Originally posted by Rayovac:
Both "PCs and Macs" are fine. But with price tags, seriously, macs are rip-offs.
Mac keeps a monopoly on the parts you can get to their computers, so the price is a lot higher with the unhealthy competition. Also people hate Windows for misusing its monopoly status, well Apple is trying to do the same thing not only with the OS and most software, but also with the computer parts. So when youre "sharing the mac experience" what youre doing is supporting just another evil multinational corporation.
quote:Originally posted by fenwick:
thanks for your input, guys! i'm in the process of installing windows onto my mac at the moment to run more programs, as most music production software is suited to windows rather than macs.
Just use the software DJ Revs recommended. I'd assume OSX can use better the hardware then windows does. Though it is handy to be able to boot to windows when needed. I do that with Linux.
Alert moderatorEdited by - whispering on 2009/01/01 10:03:39
Leto Advanced Member
United States
2,849 posts Joined: Jun, 2005
Posted - 2009/01/01 : 18:12:13
Macs are the industry standard for music and video production. Moral of the story is, you aren't in a professional studio. The biggest difference between the OS's is that OS X has native MIDI...which made it more stable, but I think it's probably irrelevant now.
Revs Advanced Member
Austria
2,584 posts Joined: Oct, 2008
Posted - 2009/01/01 : 19:24:28
No, Macs are the industry standard for music production, video production, webdesign & webdeveloppement, animation & design, just everything that is proffesional ! Windows are computers for home, or at work, when you work in an office, and you just have to enter numbers in blank fields. Seriously, do you think Pixar uses Windows ? No he uses Mac. And I guess there's a reason why. Do you think Tiesto or Paul van Dyk uses Windows ? Haha you're gonna crack me up..
This video that you just showed us.. well that's ridiculous. What he says is not true at all, my mac never crashes, sometimes it freezes for some seconds, but that's when I have PhotoShop, ImageReady, Illustrator, InDesign, Firefox, Thunderbird, Logic Pro, Virtual DJ, iTunes, iMovie, Soundtrack loop utility, Final Cut Pro HD, Cinema Tools, iDVD, Quick Time Player, Dreamweaver, Freehand, Blender, Interiors, MSN, iChat, Skype, LimeW*re, and Google Earth opened. But since I never have so many programs opened at the same time, my mac doesn't even freeze.
You know, anyone can make a video like that. Do you want me to search for "Windows Sucks" on Youtube and compare the results ? The fact alone that you believe what the guy says, proves that you don't have your own opinion. Did you ever compare the sales from Microsoft and Apple in the last years ? No, that's not only because of the iPods and iPhones, it's also because of their computers. More and more macbooks are being sold.
And windows costs more than mac trust me. Maybe not when you buy it, at the beginning, but at the end it does. When you buy a mac, you already have everything on it. If you buy windows you will have to buy MS office then, and some other stuff.. if you think like that you're just dumb.
Think whatever you want, but a proffesional would never use Windows. And a pro will never care about the product's image, but about the quality.
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