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warped_candykid
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I have started to buy tracks now, and pitch them up to my prefered BPM instead of what the DJ wants to put on a cd. I know some DJs spin in the 170bpm range, and I have seen/heard some that spin in the 180bpm-200bpm+. I notice many tracks are made around 170bpm, so I set those tracks to 185bpm, but I have noticed more tracks being made at 175bpm-180bpm, so I am thinking of setting those to 190bpm. The thing is, I just hate having that stereotype tagged along with it, that I "listen to sped-up music". Does anyone else like their Hardcore in the 180bpm+ range?

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Personally I always like to keep the tunes as-is, at their original tempo. Although I have sped up some tracks in the past too. So technically you're not alone.

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rayo: I'd love to see you mix all your tracks without pitching them up.

Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P

Personally I would never go below 180BPM when I mix


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Edited by - Samination on 2009/01/28 04:16:24
warped_candykid
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quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:
rayo: I'd love to see you mix all your tracks without pitching them up.

Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P

Personally I would never go below 180BPM when I mix



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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/01/28 :  04:24:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Rayovac:
Personally I always like to keep the tunes as-is, at their original tempo. Although I have sped up some tracks in the past too. So technically you're not alone.



I was wondering that too...how do you mix if you dont pitch? You'd be an Anoblic Frolic if you didnt use pitch.


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Posted - 2009/01/28 :  04:36:22  Show profile  Send a private message
depends on the track and what style but pitching a song up too much sounds terrible most of the time. keep in mind most people don't dance to things faster than 180bpm.

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i think the faster the better, as far as a studio set goes. i know i'd get pretty tired if i had to dance to something that fast, but i still think that a fun fast bouncy set is great.

if you're asking where i draw the line, i think that anything after 188 starts to sound a little too fast.


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quote:
Originally posted by DjSamination:

Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P





I would say 170bpm is more common tbh.

I mix mine slighlty faster. I'd say it must be about 175-180. Much faster than that sounds shit to me. No power left in anything.


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180 after that everything starts to clash

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I try and stick between 180-182

That seems to be the sweet spot for me.


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Zero pitch, most stuff is actually 168, most of the quosh, NG and BB is 174, all freeform is 174+ basically all at zero pitch.




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quote:
Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I have started to buy tracks now, and pitch them up to my prefered BPM instead of what the DJ wants to put on a cd. I know some DJs spin in the 170bpm range, and I have seen/heard some that spin in the 180bpm-200bpm+. I notice many tracks are made around 170bpm, so I set those tracks to 185bpm, but I have noticed more tracks being made at 175bpm-180bpm, so I am thinking of setting those to 190bpm. The thing is, I just hate having that stereotype tagged along with it, that I "listen to sped-up music". Does anyone else like their Hardcore in the 180bpm+ range?




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170-180 for me Id say!

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Only thing I like over 180 bpm is Hard Techno and even then only in bursts.

Very rarely pitch records up & down just to listen too as they normally sound best at zero but obviously will change the pitch when I'm having a mix.

I think the faster you go with music the less people are interested in dancing to it. IMHO the whole Nu-Skool Breakz scene came about because people liked the D&B style but didn't want the 170+bpms.


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hmm, if i enjoy the track, i dont really mind what speed its at

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Depends on the track tbh. If its pressed at 170 and your playing it at 185+ its gonna start sounding stupid. Like a few have said the track loses power. If were talking UK Hardcore ill usually play it at about 178-183 (i dont measure before hand just there abouts is how i like it) but i hate it when people go too far over. Americans seem to be worse for this. I think almost every mix ive downloaded off here from an American has been at about 185-190+ BPM. Most UK Hardcore does sound far too slow when pressed, but pitching it up to silly levels is never the answer.


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