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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 03:29:46
I have started to buy tracks now, and pitch them up to my prefered BPM instead of what the DJ wants to put on a cd. I know some DJs spin in the 170bpm range, and I have seen/heard some that spin in the 180bpm-200bpm+. I notice many tracks are made around 170bpm, so I set those tracks to 185bpm, but I have noticed more tracks being made at 175bpm-180bpm, so I am thinking of setting those to 190bpm. The thing is, I just hate having that stereotype tagged along with it, that I "listen to sped-up music". Does anyone else like their Hardcore in the 180bpm+ range?
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 03:52:33
Personally I always like to keep the tunes as-is, at their original tempo. Although I have sped up some tracks in the past too. So technically you're not alone.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 04:16:02
rayo: I'd love to see you mix all your tracks without pitching them up.
Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P
Personally I would never go below 180BPM when I mix
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 04:22:52
quote: Originally posted by DjSamination:
rayo: I'd love to see you mix all your tracks without pitching them up.
Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P
Personally I would never go below 180BPM when I mix
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 04:24:47
quote: Originally posted by Rayovac:
Personally I always like to keep the tunes as-is, at their original tempo. Although I have sped up some tracks in the past too. So technically you're not alone.
I was wondering that too...how do you mix if you dont pitch? You'd be an Anoblic Frolic if you didnt use pitch.
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Brian K
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 04:36:22
depends on the track and what style but pitching a song up too much sounds terrible most of the time. keep in mind most people don't dance to things faster than 180bpm.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 05:23:16
i think the faster the better, as far as a studio set goes. i know i'd get pretty tired if i had to dance to something that fast, but i still think that a fun fast bouncy set is great.
if you're asking where i draw the line, i think that anything after 188 starts to sound a little too fast.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 08:20:07
quote: Originally posted by DjSamination:
Usually Happy/UK Hardcore is pressed at 174 BPM, but because of warping n stuff, that's never true with vinyl :P
I would say 170bpm is more common tbh.
I mix mine slighlty faster. I'd say it must be about 175-180. Much faster than that sounds shit to me. No power left in anything.
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 09:08:19
180 after that everything starts to clash
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 10:33:21
I try and stick between 180-182
That seems to be the sweet spot for me.
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 10:40:12
Zero pitch, most stuff is actually 168, most of the quosh, NG and BB is 174, all freeform is 174+ basically all at zero pitch.
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 11:58:06
quote: Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I have started to buy tracks now, and pitch them up to my prefered BPM instead of what the DJ wants to put on a cd. I know some DJs spin in the 170bpm range, and I have seen/heard some that spin in the 180bpm-200bpm+. I notice many tracks are made around 170bpm, so I set those tracks to 185bpm, but I have noticed more tracks being made at 175bpm-180bpm, so I am thinking of setting those to 190bpm. The thing is, I just hate having that stereotype tagged along with it, that I "listen to sped-up music". Does anyone else like their Hardcore in the 180bpm+ range?
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 12:06:19
170-180 for me Id say!
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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 12:44:28
Only thing I like over 180 bpm is Hard Techno and even then only in bursts.
Very rarely pitch records up & down just to listen too as they normally sound best at zero but obviously will change the pitch when I'm having a mix.
I think the faster you go with music the less people are interested in dancing to it. IMHO the whole Nu-Skool Breakz scene came about because people liked the D&B style but didn't want the 170+bpms.
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 12:58:32
hmm, if i enjoy the track, i dont really mind what speed its at
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/01/28 : 13:16:17
Depends on the track tbh. If its pressed at 170 and your playing it at 185+ its gonna start sounding stupid. Like a few have said the track loses power. If were talking UK Hardcore ill usually play it at about 178-183 (i dont measure before hand just there abouts is how i like it) but i hate it when people go too far over. Americans seem to be worse for this. I think almost every mix ive downloaded off here from an American has been at about 185-190+ BPM. Most UK Hardcore does sound far too slow when pressed, but pitching it up to silly levels is never the answer.
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