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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  06:01:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage  Reply with quote
this really is a pointless argument, because it's opinion. It's about as valuable as having a discussion on religion. There's no conversation that goes on, just everyone taking shots at each other and stating that their own opinion is right.

Sorry iono, i usually agree with you, but you can't make the analogy of PC's Vs. Mac's based on mercedes and ford. It's not the same prinicple. Mercedes are luxury cars - they're marketed towards wealthy people... That's their demographic. Ford is the total opposite. They're marketed to be affordable cars.

MAC's are not marketed to be affordabe AND they're marketed towards teens (greatly). Not only this but they ARE very expensive for what they do.

FACT. You can build a PC with the equivalent same parts for 1/3 -1/2 the price. I personally don't think it's worth it, but obviously some people do, so they can justify paying the extra money. Note that this is opinion, subjective, and it in no way makes a MAC better.

It's just preference. MACs and PC's both have their ups and downs. Neither is strictly "better". They're both used well for different things.


In saying that though, buy a decent enough PC OR MAC and you'll never push it to it's limits. They're not that different.


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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  07:48:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit atomsk's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Andy_Influx:

It's just preference. MACs and PC's both have their ups and downs. Neither is strictly "better". They're both used well for different things.



yes true that!

everyone is forgetting linux!!!!


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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  10:59:38  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Ionosphere's homepage  Reply with quote
Have had this conversation so many times over so many years, before a lot of you even knew what computers were

or more to the point, an operating system,

and, having been an IT manager using both Macs and PCs professionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

It has absolutely nothing to do with opinion or prejudice.

It's simple experience.

Nothing more.

but, as the old saying goes, "Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still."

and C Cell, sarcasm is only successfully used by wise men.


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Edited by - Ionosphere on 2009/03/22 11:22:46
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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  11:09:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit JustIncredible's homepage  Reply with quote
I like being able to update my hardware without spending $3000 every other year on a new machine.



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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  12:56:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Revs's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
Yeah, I had a Macbook Pro, a lot better for Music! There's Mac Users & PC Losers!, take advantage of it for Production, Mixing, Design, etc.! Tons of Power! =)



Yeah agree, Mac's are made for professional things, PCs are just for home use, playing video games and stuff like that, well you know what I mean.

I do everything on my mac, Photoshopping, Music, Webdesign etc.. and it's like it's made for. When I'm looking for new Photoshop tutorials on the web, and it shows some screenshots or even a screen capture video which shows how to draw a car ( for example ), then you always see that the guy who made the tutorial is using a mac, you notice that on the screens.


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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  13:38:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Future_Shock's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:

It has absolutely nothing to do with opinion

It's simple experience.

Nothing more.





But surely one could argue that some opinion is based on experience?

I'm of the opinion that MACs aren't as good as PC's because of the experiences ive had with the school computers. Since ive had my own PC i've never had any problems really.

Can't justify "upgrading" to a mac for a few thousand extra bucks.


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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  14:32:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TheOneNOnly's homepage  Reply with quote
Ah, who cares.

I'd still rather use a PC because I've never had a problem with it, I built mine to be a hella lot more powerful and cheaper then a Mac, and I can play my games on it when I'm not doing something with music.

Buy what you want, but just remember PCs are flexible in price in building it yourself, then getting a Mac. And that's fact.

On the term of laptops, that's just preference and how much you wanna spend.


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Edited by - TheOneNOnly on 2009/03/22 14:33:07
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Yeah agree, Mac's are made for professional things, PCs are just for home use, playing video games and stuff like that, well you know what I mean.


Keep telling that to yourself, while ill use all my professional software on a windows machine to make a living, because Mac has really bad third party support (mainly cause Apple is trying to build a monopoly far bigger then Microsoft).





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Vitalism: It was just an image I had in my imageshack account.

Also,



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Edited by - Rayovac on 2009/03/22 19:11:31
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the main problem i have with apple and the macs is they are advertising it just like the ipod. they offer all these features that the majority of the ppl will not use. their marketing strategy has really paid off, because now u have all these young adults who are defending macs and ipods when most of them don't konw what they are talking about, and use it in the same way they would use a pc or any other simplistic mp3 player

Ionosphere and DJ Revs u 2 are probably the only 2 on here that are using the macs for what they were intended to do. a person who doesn't use all of that excess programs is completely satisfied with a PC. i know I am.


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C Cell stop posting all these huge f**kin pics! they're not going to convince anyone of anything! plus i c u as deeply disturbed on researching so much of this crap u should be embarrassed for urself



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Posted - 2009/03/22 :  18:44:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Meph751's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
Have had this conversation so many times over so many years, before a lot of you even knew what computers were

or more to the point, an operating system,

and, having been an IT manager using both Macs and PCs professionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

It has absolutely nothing to do with opinion or prejudice.

It's simple experience.

Nothing more.




Absolute ********. So you, one IT manager on earth, prefers Macs. You can't somehow turn that into Macs being unequivocally better than PCs. If that were true, every computer professional would use macs, and don't even try to tell me that's true. You're not an IT god, stop pretending like your opinion of a computer somehow translates to fact.


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Originally posted by latininxtc:
C Cell stop posting all these huge f**kin pics! they're not going to convince anyone of anything!


Neither will text, you know. They're fanboys. Something earth-shattering would have to happen in their life to make them even start to think nicely of windows, linux, etc. boxes.

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Originally posted by latininxtc:plus i c u as deeply disturbed on researching so much of this crap u should be embarrassed for urself

Research? It's just random crap I've found over time. My image account there is due for a cleaning anyway.


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Edited by - Rayovac on 2009/03/22 19:10:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Meph751:

Absolute ********.... etc

....You're not an IT god, stop pretending like your opinion of a computer somehow translates to fact.



Thank you. That was nasty, very nasty,

but you are absolutely right. I'm not an IT god. I said -

"....It has absolutely nothing to do with opinion or prejudice.

It's simple experience.

Nothing more."



How many IT managers have full experience of both?

I've found that it's very few, which means that I've been lucky enough to properly experience the difference and

know what choice I'd make.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
Have had this conversation so many times over so many years, before a lot of you even knew what computers were

or more to the point, an operating system,

and, having been an IT manager using both Macs and PCs professionally I actually know what I'm talking about.

It has absolutely nothing to do with opinion or prejudice.

It's simple experience.

Nothing more.


My fathers a mac user, so naturally grew up using mac's. First one (that i was allowed to use) was from the year '91 if i remember right. From the newer ones have used OS 8, 9 and 10. But i'm not a IT manager, i just work with computers 8 hours a day and after that do my own stuff with computers.

quote:
Originally posted by Ionosphere:
but, as the old saying goes, "Convince a man against his will, he's of the same opinion still."



Still not sure if this is irony or intended :p

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Originally posted by latininxtc:
the main problem i have with apple and the macs is they are advertising it just like the ipod. they offer all these features that the majority of the ppl will not use. their marketing strategy has really paid off, because now u have all these young adults who are defending macs and ipods when most of them don't konw what they are talking about, and use it in the same way they would use a pc or any other simplistic mp3 player


I on the other hand have always thought Mac's seriously dont give you any control. It strip whatever feature they think you dont need, gives easy and simple access to some extremely basic features, but whenever you need to actually do something, its hidden under several menus and what not. They markte their computers to "artist" and "trendy" people that dont really use computers that much, or dont know how to.

quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
C Cell stop posting all these huge f**kin pics! they're not going to convince anyone of anything! plus i c u as deeply disturbed on researching so much of this crap u should be embarrassed for urself



Posted a few of those pictures myself too. Just seemed like becomming a "pissing contest" so thought id add some gasoline to the flames :p Didnt mean it as anything serious :)


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