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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  19:57:53  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Re: Shuttlepro.

passion's, such as hardcore, cost people allot. stormstrooper probably sacrificed girlfriends, family and good time to devote his time into his passion.

however, when more important things outweigh that passion, the he has every right to ignore you wankers, shuttlepro, and dictate where his own life goes.






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danjel
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:01:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit danjel's homepage  Reply with quote
This was really sad news. Hardcore is the music I love but it will go under it someone don´t stop "the old boys club".
For an example, I was at raver baby 12 some weeks ago and saw one of this old boys, Seduction. When he played it seem like ho not wanted to be there. No passion at all. When he had done the last "mix" he just sat back and let the tune play out. They just do it for the money.... money... money....


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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:19:40  Show profile  Visit Wilky's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by danjel:
This was really sad news. Hardcore is the music I love but it will go under it someone don�t stop "the old boys club".
For an example, I was at raver baby 12 some weeks ago and saw one of this old boys, Seduction. When he played it seem like ho not wanted to be there. No passion at all. When he had done the last "mix" he just sat back and let the tune play out. They just do it for the money.... money... money....


After the last mix what has he got left to do? **** all. Come on bluecore, even u shud know that haha... The problem with the OBC is they think hardcore and the ravers owe them a pension just because they where big in the 90s...


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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:26:45  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SPOOX's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by shuttlepro:
quote:
Originally posted by danjel:
This was really sad news. Hardcore is the music I love but it will go under it someone don�t stop "the old boys club".
For an example, I was at raver baby 12 some weeks ago and saw one of this old boys, Seduction. When he played it seem like ho not wanted to be there. No passion at all. When he had done the last "mix" he just sat back and let the tune play out. They just do it for the money.... money... money....


seduction is a ****ing looser, he can go kill himself that stupid worthless fu.cking wanker. he is someone who SHOULD quit the scene



Do you actually like Hardcore?


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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:30:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit MAtRiCks's homepage  Reply with quote
I've never been a huge fan of Stormtrooper's, but I do like the odd track once in a while. It's too bad to hear he is quitting, but so many more Hardcore artists come and go without making dramatic announcements like this... Unlike other peoples reading this announcement as a prophecy, this really doesn't strike me as a sign that Hardcore is going down.

I always thought something was odd about Supreme & Sunset Regime's comeback to the scene, especially since their first re-appearance tracks were very unimpressive. I guess something really was fishy :P


EDIT: [sarcasm]YAY! brand new anoying and rude users! Welcome to the boards![/sarcasm]


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Edited by - MAtRiCks on 2009/03/30 20:31:55
danjel
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:46:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit danjel's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by danjel:
This was really sad news. Hardcore is the music I love but it will go under it someone don�t stop "the old boys club".
For an example, I was at raver baby 12 some weeks ago and saw one of this old boys, Seduction. When he played it seem like ho not wanted to be there. No passion at all. When he had done the last "mix" he just sat back and let the tune play out. They just do it for the money.... money... money....


After the last mix what has he got left to do? **** all. Come on bluecore, even u shud know that haha... The problem with the OBC is they think hardcore and the ravers owe them a pension just because they where big in the 90s...



The set is not done until the last tune has played out! He had stand still during his whole set, doing boring mixes. and then he just sits back, putting his face in his hands and look like he wants to disapear.
Ever seen one of the olther old boys, Hixxy, playing live? He is not much of an entertainer. But if you looks on a video with him for like 10-15 years ago he was full of energy. Why, why, why does they still play out when they dont feel it fun?


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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  20:50:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SPOOX's homepage  Reply with quote
Shuttlepro = Another twat with nothing to offer has joined the forum.



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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  21:06:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rayovac's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by shuttlepro:
*edit*


quote:
Originally posted by shuttlepro:
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Someone wasn't hugged enough as a kid.


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Edited by - whispering on 2009/03/31 11:13:05
danjel
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  21:11:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit danjel's homepage  Reply with quote
shuttlepro=Supreme?

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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  21:27:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Mortis's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by shuttlepro:
*edit*



Say's the one who seems to relish in childish insults on an internet forum...good job.


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Edited by - whispering on 2009/03/31 11:12:13
wong
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  21:27:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage  Reply with quote
like i said earlier, shuttlecok = supreme in disguise

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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  21:44:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by shuttlepro:
*edit*



yes, i do need to make it bigger, becuase people like you seem to think that hardcore revolves around the raver and the listener.

dj's and producer's arent our slaves, and similarly, they deserve a choice and an opinion on the scene.

you have no respect for anyone and you're throwing around abuse to myself, other people and stormtrooper.

he made music for us to enjoy. when he wants to call it a day, you call him a pansy ass and tell him to **** himself, even after all his contributions and tracks which you must've ignored.

show us some respect and pay your tributes.. he made hardcore and participated towards your liking of this genre.

here here.


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95_was_the_time
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the problem with "hardcore" now is, the "old boys club" [a name, i wish i had used 5 years ago but no one was listening to me anyway (because you're all scared of the truth)] are all 30+age people, whom share all the little 30+ qualities, well i say 'qualities'.

alot of people over 30, are sadly, (uk anyway) arrogant men and very judgemental, they got one thing right, the 13-18 age group are gullable as ****, it was no problemo brainwashing those kids to their bland watered down 'hardcore' they milk out every second. however, they forget the 20-30 agegroup of today know what they like. and, as a 23 year old I can speak for all of us. we like 90s hardcore only

so for hardcore to get more fans, we need to go back to the early raw sounds.


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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  22:35:32  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit acidfluxxbass's homepage  Reply with quote
to an extent, 95, your right.

i like everything really. ill happily listen to hhc radio for a it of ravine or cotts, but also switch over to KFA tunes anyday.

but stormtrooper was undoubtedly talented and his mucic was well done and absolutely brilliant. he'll be missed.


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Posted - 2009/03/30 :  22:37:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hi Breed's homepage  Reply with quote
Hi there Shuttle pro or whoever you are.
I'm actually registering because you are a wanker.

Stormtrooper, along with many other producers arent in this world to take s*** from people like you. They entered the scene for the heart of the music, they can choose when they leave. If your so much better than them at making music, lets see you keep the spirit of hardcore running through the years.

Hardcore was and is a movement of evolution and always has been, if it hadn't evolved it would still be Hard House. Hardcore will continue to change, if you dont like, go listen to anything from bonkers 1 - 7 (brilliant albums but none the less in the past now). UK Hardcore already takes various forms across the world and is forever influenced by other genres. Upcoming Artists will continue to be shunted by the 'dinosaurs' but they can and will be the world of hardcore eventually. Supreme isnt keeping hardcore alive, he's just killing its future by removing the rightful heirs from the scene.

To finish, FL Studio is no different from Cubase or Logic or any other. Skill of music is deppendant on the composer/producer, not the production value of the equipment. A fine example of this is Synthwulf.

SO 'Shuttlepro' your a bit of a nob end.
Supreme had his time, as did the others, but hardcore has moved on without them.

Stormtrooper your talent will forever influence the hardcore movement, I look forward to whatever you choose to move on to.
This reply goes out to all others as my opinion on the topic.


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