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RopeNL
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 Posted - 2009/05/10 : 13:20:32
Hi all,
I was doing some research on the types of the music I listen to (because I felt like it).
And inevitably I wound up at this site, which resulted in me listening to your radio.
First of all let me say I liked it. Though I have a question.
I listen to Hardstyle, Hardcore(not happy hardcore but the dutch mainstream type), Earl rave and sometimes Terror.
So I've heard a lot of songs from dutch artists and I've also been to a lot of really big party's.
However since I've been listening to your radio I've heard atleast 6 songs (in the past hour) which I felt had the exact same lyrics, the same type of beat only a bit faster and happier. Than the, in my eyes, original songs.
So is there anyone who can agree on this?
I'll make it clear I'm not trying to downgrade this style of music. I'm just doing some research.
And maybe kind of trying to establish for myself that Holland is of the origin of most types of Hardcore music.
So no disrespecting just a question.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:08:32
dont like it? dont listen to it
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RopeNL
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:27:37
Did you even read the post? I said I liked it. I'm asking a question.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:34:11
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Originally posted by RopeNL:
Did you even read the post? I said I liked it. I'm asking a question.
i read it yes.. but youre complaining about a couple of tracks that sounded the same.. hardcore is a genre, therefore will and should sound the same
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RopeNL
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:43:24
I'm not complaining. All I'm doing is asking a question. If you don't agree with that ok be my guest. But don't make any false accusements.
So if you would, please stay on topic and anwser the question. Do you agree or disagree?
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:49:48
mate, not the best foot to start off on with me.
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:50:22
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Originally posted by RopeNL:
Hi all,
I was doing some research on the types of the music I listen to (because I felt like it).
And inevitably I wound up at this site, which resulted in me listening to your radio.
First of all let me say I liked it. Though I have a question.
I listen to Hardstyle, Hardcore(not happy hardcore but the dutch mainstream type), Earl rave and sometimes Terror.
So I've heard a lot of songs from dutch artists and I've also been to a lot of really big party's.
However since I've been listening to your radio I've heard atleast 6 songs (in the past hour) which I felt had the exact same lyrics, the same type of beat only a bit faster and happier. Than the, in my eyes, original songs.
So is there anyone who can agree on this?
I'll make it clear I'm not trying to downgrade this style of music. I'm just doing some research.
And maybe kind of trying to establish for myself that Holland is of the origin of most types of Hardcore music.
So no disrespecting just a question.
Lots of UK hardcore/happy hardcore tracks use the same vocals as some dutch hardcore tracks. For example, alot of Paul Elstak stuff also has happy hardcore mixes, even if the "original" is a happy gabber mix.
Also, dutch hardcore steals from other styles too. It's possible that both UK hardcore/happy hardcore and dutch hardcore stole from the same original tracks (whether it's from some mainstream song or trance, etc).
It's actually pretty uncommon that UK hardcore rips off dutch hardcore so I wouldn't think too much of it.
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RopeNL
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 14:54:58
Ok cool, Thanks. Maybe I sould have refrazed the topic's title into something else that doesn't piss people off:P. I'll see if I can do that now.
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RopeNL
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 15:01:02
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Originally posted by Wilky:
mate, not the best foot to start off on with me.
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
Maybe you and I have a different opinion on what's hardcore and what isn't. Think that's the problem here anyway. I'd prefer if you didn't say that the stuff I speak of is "wet shit". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you. Also I didn't mention gabba in any of this.
I'll ask again please anwser the question or don't post anything that doesn't have anything to back it up.
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 15:31:59
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Originally posted by RopeNL:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
mate, not the best foot to start off on with me.
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
Maybe you and I have a different opinion on what's hardcore and what isn't. Think that's the problem here anyway. I'd prefer if you didn't say that the stuff I speak of is "wet shit". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you. Also I didn't mention gabba in any of this.
I'll ask again please anwser the question or don't post anything that doesn't have anything to back it up.
well... when people normally mention dutch hardcore i assume gabba..
i dont like ur tone mate.. simples
i've already answered your question..
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 15:47:44
Oh Wilky, do something more productive than slapping your cock at newcomers blaming them for for an attitude that doesn't exist...
oh and Hi RopeNL. The mix you propably listened to was propably made by someone who doesnt like much music :P
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 15:49:02
lol u can always count on wilky 2 stirr up shit
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 18:08:56
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by RopeNL:
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
mate, not the best foot to start off on with me.
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
Maybe you and I have a different opinion on what's hardcore and what isn't. Think that's the problem here anyway. I'd prefer if you didn't say that the stuff I speak of is "wet shit". I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you. Also I didn't mention gabba in any of this.
I'll ask again please anwser the question or don't post anything that doesn't have anything to back it up.
well... when people normally mention dutch hardcore i assume gabba..
i dont like ur tone mate.. simples
i've already answered your question..
you know, in the 90s alot the dutch hardcore sound was happy gabber and full of vocals
that's why so many vocals are shared
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Skidzorz
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 22:33:16
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Originally posted by Wilky:
mate, not the best foot to start off on with me.
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
**** you Wilky. There, that a better foot to start off on? Ì haven`t been here for a while but from what I can see you`re the stereotypical forum ``Vet``. You`ve been here a while, you have quite a few posts, therefore you are better than all of us. I mean, that`s how you see it, amirite?
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 22:44:03
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
lol u can always count on wilky 2 stirr up shit
damn ****in right!!!!!
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Originally posted by Samination:
Oh Wilky, do something more productive than slapping your cock at newcomers blaming them for for an attitude that doesn't exist...
oh and Hi RopeNL. The mix you propably listened to was propably made by someone who doesnt like much music :P
come back when you've got ur head out of ur mums knickers
holland isnt the origin of all hardcore.. dont talk wet shit... hardcore has been around a lot longer than gabba
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**** you Wilky. There, that a better foot to start off on? Ì haven`t been here for a while but from what I can see you`re the stereotypical forum ``Vet``. You`ve been here a while, you have quite a few posts, therefore you are better than all of us. I mean, that`s how you see it, amirite?
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**** OFF BACK TO UR CAVE!
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Posted - 2009/05/10 : 22:58:25
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Oh Wilky, do something more productive than slapping your cock at newcomers blaming them for for an attitude that doesn't exist...
oh and Hi RopeNL. The mix you propably listened to was propably made by someone who doesnt like much music :P
come back when you've got ur head out of ur mums knickers
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Originally posted by Wilky:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
**** you Wilky. There, that a better foot to start off on? Ì haven`t been here for a while but from what I can see you`re the stereotypical forum ``Vet``. You`ve been here a while, you have quite a few posts, therefore you are better than all of us. I mean, that`s how you see it, amirite?
**** OFF BACK TO UR CAVE!
How old are you Wilky? Really how old?
This is why I gave you shit on another thread a few weeks ago, your a ****in' nob end. Have you got nothing else to do with yourself other than come on here and be an arse?
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