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dantheman
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 Posted - 2009/05/27 : 19:36:45
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Originally posted by HardcoreUnderground:
Electronic as in Electronica Exposed?
Still has loads of releases, albeit not all on vinyl. There is however "Electric Bedlam".
CDJay
Electronic as in Electronic.
Electronica Exposed is the newer stuff. I definitely do need to check it out as well as Electric Bedlam.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 19:43:39
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Originally posted by dantheman:
EDM in general is commercialized. I know that Bonkers commercials are played on TV there. I see it more as getting the word out.
It's still the same type of music that I love. Call me a "noob" or whatever, but I have always loved the Raverbaby/HTID style of hardcore.
OMG STFU b4 u make all americans EDM fans look like idiots!!! NOT ALL EDM is commercialized and u know this for a fact. if that were true then wal-mart, target, k-mart and even the larger electronic stores will be fully stocked with the most recent EDM, including ALL GENRES & SUBGENRES! but they don't.
and yes you clearly are an exclusive raverbaby/HTID fan because that is all you defend every chance you get. you lose further credibility to anything you say because you promoted hixxy at 1 of your events in the past and all this is an attempt to further kiss arse, by attempting to defend him so well to earn some type of respect in hopes that he is willing to come back to 1 of your events.
now going back on topic, yes i agree i am 1 of those ppl who appreciate the underground and commercial side of hardcore, BUT where my difference lies is that i will defend the underground hardcore with great ease rather than the commercial. almost everything negative that is said about the commercial side is true so there is no legitimate reason to defend it as much when it is being attacked.
also i dont believe that this divide suddenly was created it has been there for a long time. the only thing is that people from both of these sides have become more vocal. some1 has mentioned that the forums used to be a place that had little to no negative feedback about anything. that's because we all can't hold our tongue backs any longer on what is going on in both the underground and commercial scene. we all must vent or state opinions or point out what is wrong.
and also ppl here mention euphoria: hardcore on here. I love that CD and in no way do i see it as the same comparision in commercialization as CXH1. In fact, EH was the perfect example of a good commercialized hardcore album: a huge variety of hardcore in there with limited signs of repetiveness.
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xMx
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 20:03:48
NO, PLEASE, NOT ANOTHER GENRE OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC.
Too many already, nobody can break the mold because with a little change, a track can become an entirely different style.
Addition: I know here in the East Coast United States, it's hard to find another EDM fan beyond turning on my music and someone coming up and going "OH EM GEE, DO YOU HAVE SANDSTORM?" I cry myself to sleep sometimes. Point is, the Hardcore that sounds "commercial" isn't exactly "commercial" everywhere.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 22:00:37
so we've established that dan's view of hardcore is irrelevent and biased, and also extrememly flawed, but could we go back to the question the thread is about? its this kind of debating that makes me think there is a divide.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 22:38:42
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
so we've established that dan's view of hardcore is irrelevent and biased, and also extrememly flawed, but could we go back to the question the thread is about? its this kind of debating that makes me think there is a divide.
Does that not answer your question then? :p
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 22:42:27
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Originally posted by Meathead:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
so we've established that dan's view of hardcore is irrelevent and biased, and also extrememly flawed, but could we go back to the question the thread is about? its this kind of debating that makes me think there is a divide.
Does that not answer your question then? :p
good point :P:P
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/05/27 : 23:58:59
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
...whilst many others, mainly newer members like AATW but dislike the underground stuff..
I would be curious to know who you are reffering to, as I've rarely seen anybody on these boards, or even anywhere, express dislike for the Underground side of Hardcore. Ignorance maybe, but dislike?
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Originally posted by Jester MC:
and then theres: makes music weather its good or not, gets recognition from no one except the poeple already IN this class, gives tracks away for free because 'your so hardcore underground and thats how it should be to support the growth of the scene (really meaning i know no one will buy this) proud as shit and more than big headed and narssasistic about their producing abilities, chirping the 'commercial' artists that are so NOT the right face for MY music, and those BASTARDS get to play infront of the best crowds and its all to sing songy happy...im not happy hardcore im HARDCORE, one day i will make it big and turn this whole scene around!
This seems to me like a very honest and appropriate way of describing half the Hardcore scene right now. It's too bad that the artists and enthusiasts represented in this toughtful paragraph put forward such an unpleasant attitude, therefore turning-off a lot of potential supporters.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 00:15:10
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Originally posted by latininxtc to dantheman:
and yes you clearly are an exclusive raverbaby/HTID fan because that is all you defend every chance you get. you lose further credibility to anything you say because you promoted hixxy at 1 of your events in the past and all this is an attempt to further kiss arse, by attempting to defend him so well to earn some type of respect in hopes that he is willing to come back to 1 of your events.
And you, latinxtc, are always stirring up shit and insulting peoples every chance you get. You lose credibility to me everytime you resort in putting down somebody else to get your point across. It's because of useless haters like you that people who enjoy and respect the commercial side of Hardcore constantly feel the need to defend and justify their tastes on these boards. Respect the music, and respect the people making and enjoying it.
About the divide... I think it comes from people like you, who make it seem like there is a world of difference between the underground and the commercial, althought really it's all Happy Hardcore/Uk Hardcore/Freeform.
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dantheman
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 08:06:46
Well I'm glad we got that cleared up! ;)
Thanks Matricks.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 08:37:39
and gabber
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m0nKeY
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 11:37:29
I predominately love the underground sound though there are some banging commercial tunes out there. My reason for this is because there are a lot of tracks out there that you can tell just by listening to them that they were churned out to make money and appeal to the masses, where as with many of the underground tunes you can feel it was produced for the love of the music and has the producers heart in it, not 'just another' track. Does anyone else get that same feeling?
There is quite a big divide which I can only see increasing as more commercial stuff is released but I don't mind too much, it's nice to be a part of the more exclusive side of hardcore with like minded people enjoying the same sounds!
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redwingz
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 12:40:55
Correct me if Im wrong, but Meathead's join date is 2006 and Danthemans is 2007.
I thought 2006 was earlier than 2007, so actually Dantheman....Meatheads join date is earlier.
Not that it matters anyway.....
Meathead loves 'Amigos' ;)
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 13:19:47
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
...whilst many others, mainly newer members like AATW but dislike the underground stuff..
I would be curious to know who you are reffering to, as I've rarely seen anybody on these boards, or even anywhere, express dislike for the Underground side of Hardcore. Ignorance maybe, but dislike?
I hated Gabber when i first joined here. If anyone cares to look back that far i distinctly remember saying something along the lines of "i will never like Gabber" not ignorance pure hatred for the stuff. Now i moved past typical Gabber and love me some good ol Breakcore.
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Originally posted by redwingz:
Correct me if Im wrong, but Meathead's join date is 2006 and Danthemans is 2007.
I thought 2006 was earlier than 2007, so actually Dantheman....Meatheads join date is earlier.
Not that it matters anyway.....
Ha so it is, Have it Dantheman! 
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Originally posted by redwingz:
Meathead loves 'Amigos' ;)
Grrrr! *shakes fist*
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dantheman
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 13:36:54
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Originally posted by redwingz:
Correct me if Im wrong, but Meathead's join date is 2006 and Danthemans is 2007.
I thought 2006 was earlier than 2007, so actually Dantheman....Meatheads join date is earlier.
Not that it matters anyway.....
Meathead loves 'Amigos' ;)
Ooh sick burn(s)!
LOL
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Lilley
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Posted - 2009/05/28 : 15:24:55
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Originally posted by redwingz:
Correct me if Im wrong, but Meathead's join date is 2006 and Danthemans is 2007.
I thought 2006 was earlier than 2007, so actually Dantheman....Meatheads join date is earlier.
Not that it matters anyway.....
Meathead loves 'Amigos' ;)
I just looked at this thread and i thought i would be the first to notice it. glad someone has their eyes open
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Originally posted by MAtRiCks:
I would be curious to know who you are reffering to, as I've rarely seen anybody on these boards, or even anywhere, express dislike for the Underground side of Hardcore. Ignorance maybe, but dislike?
I'm not a huge fan of underground happyhard, stuff like stormtrooper and Marc Smith etc, some tracks i like, most i dont. I like a bit of the cheesy uplifting stuff and pull out some of the CXH tracks on occasion. Im much more a fan of freeform in its strictest sense - stuff that goes anywhere and everywhere, especially dark psy stuff - except for where it covers the underground hardcore stuff.
As for the HU cd's the only one iv properly listened to is 1. given 3 a bit of ear but not really, just a once through. out of one's cd's the only one that really interested me was darwins and cubehards. lost count of the number of times i listened to that cd. probably close to 100 (im sure others are well over this). not that i didnt like the other two they just didnt really appeal to me as exceptional.
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