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Revs
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 Posted - 2009/06/09 : 18:38:21
I love the transitions between Breakbeat and UKH Tracks, I think the Breakbeat and the 4-Beat together just sound damn sexy !
There was a time ( back in the 90s ) when Happy Hardcore Tracks had a 4-Beat and a Breakbeat! I love these kind of tracks !
I think a simple 4-Beat can be boring sometimes, but a breakbeat in the background for example makes the track "more complicated", and the more complicated a track is, the better it is imo!
What ya think? 
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DJ Complx
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 18:41:21
agreed, a 4/4 beat can get kinda boring if its a long track
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 18:44:41
Especially if the track is very empty 
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DJ Complx
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 18:53:53
Im trying to think of some tracks that are "empty" cause i know what u mean.
the only one i can really think of is:
Now is the Time - Scott Brown
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 19:26:57
some ukh tracks have really compicated hat combinations though and they do the same thing as a breakbeat but sound a lil bit cooler..
a good example is most of d&gs new stuff
that is hectic shizzle
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 19:53:32
Yeah, or this ones :
Chemical Generation ( Bo Remix ) - Sash Dee feat. MC Enemy
Suicide ( A.M.S. Remix ) - DJ Kurt
****ing love those!
But as I said, I think a breakbeat and a 4-beat at the same time just sound ****ing hot ! 
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/09 : 20:02:26
Breakbeats Vs 4/4 Kick
Breakbeat - hands down
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Jackol
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 06:04:19
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
There was a time ( back in the 90s ) when Happy Hardcore Tracks had a 4-Beat and a Breakbeat! I love these kind of tracks !
You mean like-a dis? http://www.mediafire.com/?ytkygkd2rdz
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 09:25:13
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Originally posted by Jackol:
You mean like-a dis? http://www.mediafire.com/?ytkygkd2rdz
I like this track. Is it one of yours?
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 10:36:01
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Yeah, or this ones :
Chemical Generation ( Bo Remix ) - Sash Dee feat. MC Enemy
Suicide ( A.M.S. Remix ) - DJ Kurt
****ing love those!
But as I said, I think a breakbeat and a 4-beat at the same time just sound ****ing hot !
Cube::Hard - In The Moment!!!!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 11:33:35
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Jackol:
You mean like-a dis? http://www.mediafire.com/?ytkygkd2rdz
I like this track. Is it one of yours?
yes this is quite an interesting track. good quality
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Fluffbomb
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 12:50:22
4/4 Kick, Full Breakbeat or 4/4 Kick with Breakbeat is all good for me. I can't see UK Hardcore going back to its original sound with more breakbeats though.
I'm quite happy listening to Old Skool and Hardcore Breaks where both breakbeat and 4/4 Kicks are common.
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/10 : 16:34:52
quote:
Originally posted by Jackol:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
There was a time ( back in the 90s ) when Happy Hardcore Tracks had a 4-Beat and a Breakbeat! I love these kind of tracks !
You mean like-a dis? http://www.mediafire.com/?ytkygkd2rdz
Yeah a bit! But that's more oldskoolish.
Actually a good example would be DJ Mole's Mix Back In Your Garden! ( which you can download from here ), when the second track is mixed in the first one! I love the transition, Breakbeat vs. 4-Beat
I like it when the breakbeats have "beats" too, not only claps, hi-hats and stuff like that like in Jackol's song. With 4-Beat it sounds like you have 3-4 different Beats one after another, they're so close to each other that you could think the speed is like 340 BPM, but the 'main beat' still gives you a feeling of how fast it is in reality! Dunno how to explain, you must just listen!
Btw the mix is sick, highly recommended for download!
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/12 : 16:50:18
And as always, when it comes to download something, everyone is gone 
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Entity
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Posted - 2009/06/12 : 23:10:04
Kickdrums + breakbeats = 
Tunes with both in used to be ten a penny...If you look around you'll still find the odd track but there aren't that many.
Definitely agree about mixing between breaks into kicks or vice-versa - if you've got the right two tracks the results can be amazing! Try and get hold of an old mix by Ian H called 'Breaking point'. The transition from Scott Brown - 'Rock you softly' remix into CLSM - 'Roof on fire' shows just how good it can be (IMO of course  ).
Thing is, I don't think there are many breakbeat tracks that can keep their head above water when played next to a kickdrum track. As good as they are (and I LOVE my breaks) a lot of them just don't seem to keep the energy. 'Roof on fire' is the strongest track I can think of, and Darwin - 'Takes you back' is another strong track which still has small 4/4 sections in it to keep things moving along nicely and keep everyone happy. Neither of which should cause any problems if dropped into a set full of kickdrums!
I personally would love it if prominent breakbeats came back in 4/4 tunes. Some producers have brought back the big kicks (woo!) into their productions and it would be nice if tunes with both kicks and breakbeats made a return. Not holding my breath though, and I really can't see the top tier doing this.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/06/12 : 23:21:37
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Originally posted by Entity:
I personally would love it if prominent breakbeats came back in 4/4 tunes. Some producers have brought back the big kicks (woo!) into their productions and it would be nice if tunes with both kicks and breakbeats made a return. Not holding my breath though, and I really can't see the top-tier doing this.
I recall Al storm being someone who would switch from break to 4/4. bonkers 17 remix of do it like we do was the first time i really noticed it tbh.
But i do agree, its a great bit of variety. I need more practice with doing breaks tbh instead of using obscure loops in Fruity :P
theres a FL Plugin that allows for breaks, but how to use it beyond me, when i get time ill ask fishy to teach me xD :P
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