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acidfluxxbass
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 Posted - 2009/06/14 : 18:06:30
Ponder too does some. He's one of my favourites for it :D
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/06/14 : 18:42:02
Same 
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Posted - 2009/06/30 : 23:07:55
Here's a 11 second rip of a track I just made, it's 4-Beat vs. Breakbeat, makes the track more bouncy imo :
http://www.speedyshare.com/748543768.html
It's not mastered or anything, so you gotta do it on your computer to get the right sound.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2009/06/30 : 23:14:28
i've got a big of a secret love for this (shock horror!!) POST year 2000 tune.
but I dont know what style of hardcore you'd call it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjeKIocpHw
oh &
Ham 'Good In Da Neighbourhood' but it isn't on YT.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/06/30 : 23:52:33
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Here's a 11 second rip of a track I just made, it's 4-Beat vs. Breakbeat, makes the track more bouncy imo :
http://www.speedyshare.com/748543768.html
It's not mastered or anything, so you gotta do it on your computer to get the right sound.
Im guessing that isnt supposed to be a full, finished track but it needs a few things sorting.
I wouldnt use that "breakbeat" for a start, other than in a drop or breakdown or something like that. When the track is in full effect it doesnt bounce along. The main 4/4 kick can't be heard, or isn't as prominent as it should be, because of the style of break you are using. You want a breakbeat that almost all the lows are filtered out of allowing the main kick to punch through. When using breakbeats with 4/4 kicks, with the break it's all about them hats, rides etc and snares, which the break you are using has none of really. That's what give it that flow. So get a different breakbeat, the amen will do but if you want it to not be so obvious and generic try a different break, EQ it to almost completely get rid of the kick. Little tip from Danny Byrd's (D&B dude) producer masterclass is to use compression on your breaksw which helps level everything out making the highs more prominent, try it it works. Then you will have the 4/4 kick more prominent but the breakbeat still very much audible and the track will flow much better. If you want post a longer clip up in the tracks section and people can give a bit more feedback / tips. I'd be happy to help out a lil more if you like mate.
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2009/06/30 : 23:58:16
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Originally posted by Entity:
Kickdrums + breakbeats = 
QUOTED FOR TRUTH. God, why do barely any producers do this anymore?!
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Originally posted by DJ Complx:
Im trying to think of some tracks that are "empty" cause i know what u mean.
the only one i can really think of is:
Now is the Time - Scott Brown
The 2000 remix of that track would be improved tenfold if there were a kickass breakbeat put in it.
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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 00:11:58
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
i've got a big of a secret love for this (shock horror!!) POST year 2000 tune.
but I dont know what style of hardcore you'd call it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjeKIocpHw
oh &
Ham 'Good In Da Neighbourhood' but it isn't on YT.
TUUNNNEE... off my favorite bonkers as well :D
the genre is hardcore breaks i think...
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 12:13:02
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Originally posted by Meathead:
I wouldnt use that "breakbeat" for a start, other than in a drop or breakdown or something like that. When the track is in full effect it doesnt bounce along. The main 4/4 kick can't be heard, or isn't as prominent as it should be, because of the style of break you are using. You want a breakbeat that almost all the lows are filtered out of allowing the main kick to punch through.When using breakbeats with 4/4 kicks, with the break it's all about them hats, rides etc and snares, which the break you are using has none of really. That's what give it that flow. So get a different breakbeat, the amen will do but if you want it to not be so obvious and generic try a different break, EQ it to almost completely get rid of the kick. Little tip from Danny Byrd's (D&B dude) producer masterclass is to use compression on your breaksw which helps level everything out making the highs more prominent, try it it works. Then you will have the 4/4 kick more prominent but the breakbeat still very much audible and the track will flow much better. If you want post a longer clip up in the tracks section and people can give a bit more feedback / tips. I'd be happy to help out a lil more if you like mate.
Nah, that's not what I want ! You mean something like in Brisk's Remix of "Six Days", but I don't want only the highs from the breakbeat, coz it would sound too oldskoolish. It's really bouncy as it is now, and yeah, the breakbeat should be in the foreground!
But yeah, I'm happy if you want to help me, help is always good =)
Oh and.. no, it's not a finished track, I made this yesterday night in like 1 hour or less... a finished track doesn't last 11 seconds 
Here's the mp3 btw, for those who have probs with the m4a version :
http://www.speedyshare.com/366466414.html
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 13:00:14
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
quote:
Originally posted by Meathead:
I wouldnt use that "breakbeat" for a start, other than in a drop or breakdown or something like that. When the track is in full effect it doesnt bounce along. The main 4/4 kick can't be heard, or isn't as prominent as it should be, because of the style of break you are using. You want a breakbeat that almost all the lows are filtered out of allowing the main kick to punch through.When using breakbeats with 4/4 kicks, with the break it's all about them hats, rides etc and snares, which the break you are using has none of really. That's what give it that flow. So get a different breakbeat, the amen will do but if you want it to not be so obvious and generic try a different break, EQ it to almost completely get rid of the kick. Little tip from Danny Byrd's (D&B dude) producer masterclass is to use compression on your breaksw which helps level everything out making the highs more prominent, try it it works. Then you will have the 4/4 kick more prominent but the breakbeat still very much audible and the track will flow much better. If you want post a longer clip up in the tracks section and people can give a bit more feedback / tips. I'd be happy to help out a lil more if you like mate.
Nah, that's not what I want ! You mean something like in Brisk's Remix of "Six Days", but I don't want only the highs from the breakbeat, coz it would sound too oldskoolish. It's really bouncy as it is now, and yeah, the breakbeat should be in the foreground!
But yeah, I'm happy if you want to help me, help is always good =)
Oh and.. no, it's not a finished track, I made this yesterday night in like 1 hour or less... a finished track doesn't last 11 seconds
Here's the mp3 btw, for those who have probs with the m4a version :
http://www.speedyshare.com/366466414.html
I know a finished track lasts longer than 11 seconds, i meant i know it's not ripped from a full length track. Well that brisk remix in fact there isnt much EQing of the break, and doesnt sound too bouncy as a result also because of the lack of EQing the main 4/4 kick isnt as prominent as it could be the break overpowers the kick. But that was then, this is now, production has moved on. The break you are using isnt realkly a break, but a kick drum roll and snare. I dont think it does sound bouncy tbh but fair enough if that's the sound you are going for mate. Like i say i would gladly post my feedback on your tracks if you posted some up.
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Posted - 2009/07/01 : 14:08:25
Indeed, coz I don't wanna have something like Beat - Claps, Snares, Hats etc. - Beat - Claps, Snares, Hats etc. - Beat - Claps, Snares, Hats etc. - and so on...
But Mainbeat (4/4 kick) - Lower Beat - Claps, Snare, Hats - Beat - Lower Beat - Mainbeat (4/4 kick) - Lower Beat - Claps, Snare, Hats - Beat - Lower Beat - Mainbeat (4/4 kick) - Lower Beat - Claps, Snare, Hats - Beat - Lower Beat - Mainbeat (4/4 kick) - Lower Beat - Claps, Snare, Hats - Beat - Lower Beat - etc etc... see what I mean ? I don't want only drums between the 4/4 but also kicks 
I think it is boucy, it's not bouncy in a Hardcore way, but bouncy in a way of normal music. A lot of people call some hardcore tracks bouncy, but tbh I don't think there's much bouncy Hardcore, what you call bouncy is like "Rippin - Gammer" but imo something like this here is bouncy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viVQUKNAxxc
There's a timestrechted version of the original which was on the same EP as the Seduction Remix I think, now that's bouncy!
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