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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2009/07/18 : 20:39:21
I only support people who play Hardcore I like. If you don't make 'Traditional' sounding Hardcore then im not interested. Sorry
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Wilky
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Posted - 2009/07/18 : 20:39:57
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by Trimms:
Hardcore Addiction 1+2
and HU 1+3
2 has eluded me.
Edit: And you can't forget the recent release of COH4... see, it's not all that bad.
Non of these albums are what you would call "mainstream" so I would still have to disagree with your point. Take the last two "big" albums that have been released.
Bonkers (18) - Mixed by Sharkey, Unknown & Hixxy < All been around for years. And most tracks on that album are by people who have been in the scene for a long time. Very few newcomers.
Helter Skelter vs Raindance - The Sound Of Hardcore 2009 - Mixed by Slipmatt & Bunter < FFS. Loads of tracks from people who have been in the scene for years. Very few newcomers.
hardcore addiction 2 (not got the 1st one) not much new talent
HU3 not much new talent
crush on hardcore 4 in parts ya got a point but still old names pooping up
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Trimms
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Posted - 2009/07/18 : 20:44:39
quote:
Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Trimms:
Hardcore Addiction 1+2
and HU 1+3
2 has eluded me.
Edit: And you can't forget the recent release of COH4... see, it's not all that bad.
Non of these albums are what you would call "mainstream" so I would still have to disagree with your point. Take the last two "big" albums that have been released.
Bonkers (18) - Mixed by Sharkey, Unknown & Hixxy < All been around for years. And most tracks on that album are by people who have been in the scene for a long time. Very few newcomers.
Helter Skelter vs Raindance - The Sound Of Hardcore 2009 - Mixed by Slipmatt & Bunter < FFS. Loads of tracks from people who have been in the scene for years. Very few newcomers.
hardcore addiction 2 (not got the 1st one) not much new talent
HU3 not much new talent
crush on hardcore 4 in parts ya got a point but still old names pooping up
LOL pooping up.
And so? The tracks were ****ing off the chain. There's no reason to shun the old when the new are getting just as much of a chance on COH4.
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EvoDave101
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Posted - 2009/07/18 : 22:56:57
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Originally posted by Trimms:
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Originally posted by Wilky:
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Trimms:
Hardcore Addiction 1+2
and HU 1+3
2 has eluded me.
Edit: And you can't forget the recent release of COH4... see, it's not all that bad.
Non of these albums are what you would call "mainstream" so I would still have to disagree with your point. Take the last two "big" albums that have been released.
Bonkers (18) - Mixed by Sharkey, Unknown & Hixxy < All been around for years. And most tracks on that album are by people who have been in the scene for a long time. Very few newcomers.
Helter Skelter vs Raindance - The Sound Of Hardcore 2009 - Mixed by Slipmatt & Bunter < FFS. Loads of tracks from people who have been in the scene for years. Very few newcomers.
hardcore addiction 2 (not got the 1st one) not much new talent
HU3 not much new talent
crush on hardcore 4 in parts ya got a point but still old names pooping up
LOL pooping up.
And so? The tracks were ****ing off the chain. There's no reason to shun the old when the new are getting just as much of a chance on COH4.
p.s. i joined.
Its mad to think that a free album with not very well known djs on is getting better reviews then commercial hardcore albums with dj's who have been on the scene since the start.
Only if the big names in the scene would recognise this and stop thinking about the money...i think hardcore underground are doing the right thing for sure
Crush on hardcore albums are good for bringing new people into the scene as it shows off the true side of hardcore
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/07/18 : 23:44:28
Cos a Facebook group is the solution to all of life's problems.....
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 00:59:51
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Cos a Facebook group is the solution to all of life's problems.....
this made me lol
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CDJay
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 03:07:34
"HU3 not much new talent"
WHAT?
Tell you what, go away and write a list of all the artists and vocalists included on HU3. Then report back. 
New talent needs support, and to be *developed*. If you are hoping for an entire album of entirely new names to come along and usurp the staus quo then prepare for disappointment.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 03:21:09
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Cos a Facebook group is the solution to all of life's problems.....
I'm sad cause it's raining.
Got a facebook group for that!
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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 05:33:14
I am with more in agreement with Trimms. Making the "split" wider is not the solution. HU3 had many new faces and fresh sounds. It's still one genre: Hardcore! Some albums are going to be marketed wider than others. We are still getting vinyl releases from Darren Styles, Recon, Squad-E, and Breeze along with vinyl releases from more underground titles. Throwing out the older crew will be a disaster for the upcoming artists! People are not going to buy an album on which they don't know any of the artists or the DJ, so a familiar name is needed to get exposure to the noobs. I still think upcoming artists should get a tad more exposure, and blaming the economy is no excuse. Look at what the old crew had in the early 90s compared to today's technology. Boycotting every album that comes out with the big names on it will not help either, because for everyone one of you, there are two more people to take your place in sales.
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Project-Industrial
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 07:20:31
wait a minute.. you mean... those ppl that suggest here to actually remix things as back to the future shud be put on the top positions in the scene just bcuz we need new faces? what the <big****ingcensor>?! fair nuff.. i dun agree wif some commercial stuff nd i like to see more newcomers (specially in the dutch scene... its pretty tight up here lol) but ya cant be serious to bannish the guys ya have out there now lol...
sick of the line ups these days? im laughing me bloody arse off.. what you think you going to get with a group of newcomers.. well.. a line up that stays the same for ages cuz those guys are all ya got!
nuff said i guess
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EvoDave101
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 12:00:01
if you look there is plenty of events with up and coming djs playing at them, raver reunited have a whole room dedicated to up and commers
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 18:48:53
The answer has already been given in this thread mixed through different replies.
It has to be a slow transition. There is no other way to "successfully" do it, and it's quite obvious. If the big stars just drop, the people that listen to them might be sketchy to listen to the 'new' talent on their favorite albums. That might not be true for us, because obviously this community is more open to listening to everything people have to put out. We don't stick with a few artists, and are satisfied. But, that is the thing. This is us, not the entire scene.
The 'big' artists have to SLOWLY fade out. Stay on the big albums, but allow new talent to fade in to the albums as well. Displaying different artists over the time the big artists fade out. So by the time they 'leave', everyone would of have found new artists to listen to.
Now, in MY opinion, this will never happen. From looking at how things are going now, the 'big' artists will probably ride it out as long as possible until people lose interest in their 'hardcore' and completely move onto different genre's. This might not be true, and I sure hope it isn't. I'm just going from what I see.
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leham89
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 19:22:39
the last freeformation also had a room dedicated to upcomers.
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Watson.
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 20:36:54
quote:
Originally posted by Trimms:
quote:
Originally posted by Mortis:
quote:
Originally posted by Trimms:
Hardcore Addiction 1+2
and HU 1+3
2 has eluded me.
Edit: And you can't forget the recent release of COH4... see, it's not all that bad.
Non of these albums are what you would call "mainstream" so I would still have to disagree with your point. Take the last two "big" albums that have been released.
Bonkers (18) - Mixed by Sharkey, Unknown & Hixxy < All been around for years. And most tracks on that album are by people who have been in the scene for a long time. Very few newcomers.
Helter Skelter vs Raindance - The Sound Of Hardcore 2009 - Mixed by Slipmatt & Bunter < FFS. Loads of tracks from people who have been in the scene for years. Very few newcomers.
Yeah true, in terms of mainstream a lot of new people aren't getting a good chance to shine.
I look deeper than that though, because beneath the mainstream we have loads of awesome stuff out.
A lot of people don't, that's the problem. Similarly, the lack of exposure for the more of the underground artists get prevents them from getting bookings. You've seen a number of people on here complain about the lineups being the same, why do you think this is? The promoters will go with what they know will fill the venue; i.e - the same faces everytime. These people bring the crowds because they have the exposure to the wider market. People aren't going to turn up and see a bunch of DJ's they've never heard of, are they?
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Posted - 2009/07/19 : 21:05:41
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Originally posted by Wilky:
HU3 not much new talent
crush on hardcore 4 in parts ya got a point but still old names pooping up
wilky mate, what are you saying?!?!
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