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eyp_conner_pms
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 Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:29:23
Right or Wrong?
If for example, i was to buy the latest vinyl that was released & rip it to mp3 for playing on a CDJ & then proceed to sell the vinyl on Ebay, Discogs Etc. & reclaiming the cash i bought it for.
Just wondering what people think as i started thinking about it & wether it was 'Right' & if it would be classified as filesharing? Tis a strange one!
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frozt
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:32:17
Wrong. It's like buying a CD and then going home and burning it and selling it. It's still filesharing.
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eyp_conner_pms
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:34:26
Good shout, never even thought of that!
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wong
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:35:49
do you mean sell the vinyl or the rip?
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eyp_conner_pms
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:37:02
The vinyl
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wong
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:39:10
i dont think its wrong.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 22:58:07
The money you paid for the vinyl goes back to the artists/labels anyway so no i don't think it's wrong.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:01:53
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Originally posted by frozt:
Wrong. It's like buying a CD and then going home and burning it and selling it. It's still filesharing.
If he sells the vinyl, no it's not.
When you buy the music it's yours to do with.
As long as you don't make a rip, and the proceed to give out that rip. As long as you keep that rip for YOURSELF and YOURSELF only it's legal.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:09:44
In Sweden there's a law that allows you to make backup-copy of your CD and DVD (even movies), AS LONG as they are not protected with a copy-protection system.
But if you where to sell the original, then you're not entiteled to the backups either.
In that way, it's wrong to keep them.
I don't know if this law applies to if your original copy tradegly gets destroyed/damaged.
Also on the filesharing part. It's only considered illegal if you where to share it to people you really don't know properly. By laws in Sweden, you're entitled to send a tape/cd/mp3 to another person, under the premisis that this person is either family or close friend, as long as you do it in good faith. In good faith i mean that the person won't share it further
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wong
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:13:05
all that snow in sweden must make your law people do strange stuff
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:14:22
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Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
quote:
Originally posted by frozt:
Wrong. It's like buying a CD and then going home and burning it and selling it. It's still filesharing.
If he sells the vinyl, no it's not.
When you buy the music it's yours to do with.
As long as you don't make a rip, and the proceed to give out that rip. As long as you keep that rip for YOURSELF and YOURSELF only it's legal.
So, it's allowed to make a copy and sell then sell the original while keeping the copy?
That's not (to my knowledge) allowed in sweden, so I doubt it is in the US
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:15:27
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Originally posted by wong:
all that snow in sweden must make your law people do strange stuff
if you got an idiot government who wouldn't let you to have a backup copy of your favorite CD, it's not my problem :)
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wong
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:19:11
id rather have your government than ours pal . ill swap countries with you for a year eh ?
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:23:51
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Originally posted by wong:
id rather have your government than ours pal . ill swap countries with you for a year eh ?
deal, that way i can buy more hardcore before i move back :P
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wong
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Posted - 2009/08/16 : 23:26:58
and i can build snowmen 
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Skidzorz
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 00:08:02
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
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