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EvoDave101
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 Posted - 2009/08/17 : 00:10:20
clearly not...otherwise all second hand music stores would be shut down
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Skidzorz
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 00:37:02
that wasn't directed at me right?
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 00:56:12
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 00:59:29
If you download anything from anyone, you are encouraging and participating in file-sharing.
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Skidzorz
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 01:15:28
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 01:29:18
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
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silver
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 01:37:47
To answer the original question, no you can not sell it after a copy, if you want to sell the vinyl you can you just can't keep a single version copy (or a backup) for yourself. If you used it in a mix or something then that would be fine but something DJ playable no.
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DjSakari
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 01:43:01
Just like to say that anyone who thinks this is okay, but then sharing mp3s over the internet is wrong is heavily contradicting themselves.
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Skidzorz
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 01:52:46
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 10:06:33
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
why download it? just listen to it on youtube. theres always sum1 who uploads hardcore albums on there.
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EvoDave101
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 11:09:46
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
quote:
Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
why download it? just listen to it on youtube. theres always sum1 who uploads hardcore albums on there.
why is that everyones attitude on here? :S
you all moan about illegal downloading yet most of you listen to illegally uploaded tracks on youtube...
and then you go on to moan that the tracks suck, when youve never even listen to them in full 320kbps or probs even through decent speakers
maybe you should go one step further and actually get off youtube and go to an actual rave and experiance the atmosphere
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 12:08:44
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Originally posted by EvoDave101:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
why download it? just listen to it on youtube. theres always sum1 who uploads hardcore albums on there.
why is that everyones attitude on here? :S
you all moan about illegal downloading yet most of you listen to illegally uploaded tracks on youtube...
and then you go on to moan that the tracks suck, when you've never even listen to them in full 320kbps or probs even through decent speakers
maybe you should go one step further and actually get off youtube and go to an actual rave and experiance the atmosphere
thats a ridiculous comment...
did you not pick up on my point.
the point is, instead of illegally downloading whilst waiting for an album to arrive, use youtube to stream and preview the music instead. if your not possessing the illegal track its no problem. you're not illegally listening, they are illegally uploading.
you seem to be addressing everyone on here, so since that includes me, i'll defend myself against that comment. I go to a number of local raves, i buy the albums then i listen to them on a 400W system and enjoy them.
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EvoDave101
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 12:12:52
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by EvoDave101:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
quote:
Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
why download it? just listen to it on youtube. theres always sum1 who uploads hardcore albums on there.
why is that everyones attitude on here? :S
you all moan about illegal downloading yet most of you listen to illegally uploaded tracks on youtube...
and then you go on to moan that the tracks suck, when you've never even listen to them in full 320kbps or probs even through decent speakers
maybe you should go one step further and actually get off youtube and go to an actual rave and experiance the atmosphere
thats a ridiculous comment...
did you not pick up on my point.
the point is, instead of illegally downloading whilst waiting for an album to arrive, use youtube to stream and preview the music instead. if your not possessing the illegal track its no problem. you're not illegally listening, they are illegally uploading.
you seem to be addressing everyone on here, so since that includes me, i'll defend myself against that comment. I go to a number of local raves, i buy the albums then i listen to them on a 400W system and enjoy them.
ok fair enough to you if thats true, but there is a majority of people on here that do.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 12:32:58
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Originally posted by EvoDave101:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by EvoDave101:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Skidzorz:
I had a somewhat similar question. I bought both HU3, and Relapse, but Hu3 was gonna take a week to get here, and Relapse I pre-ordered. When I bought HU3 I immediately downloaded it, and same with when Relapse leaked. I know technically it's still illegal to download that shit, but morally, who thinks this is wrong? I paid for it, so I really don't tihkn it is, but I just thought I'd see other people's thoughts.
by downloading, you're uploading the same stuff, and sending it to other people.
file-downloading and file-sharing are different. sharing means you're sharing out what you receive. you automatically encourage the whole process.
you're morally wrong, yes.
You can not allow people acess to your folders.
And I guess I was file downloading then.. it was never shared with anybody, and it was deleted the second the comp came in.
ok your uploading was off.. but you are still one more person downloading from someone else among many others who are pleading ignorance or coming up with excuses or reasonings...
why not just wait for it.. makes it more special to listen to the shiny ass side of the disk than a crappy mp3...
Fair enough, not really trying to argue, was just curious and what people thought of this. I will continue to do it however.. if I've paid for something I feel I should be able to listen to it at will. I fail to see how my downloading it perpetuates the person sharing it? The dude had the album uplaoded, he wasn't taking it down, and CDJay/the DJ's didn't lose a dime from ME downloading it, as it was bought and paid for and probably allready on it's way. To each his own though.
why download it? just listen to it on youtube. theres always sum1 who uploads hardcore albums on there.
why is that everyones attitude on here? :S
you all moan about illegal downloading yet most of you listen to illegally uploaded tracks on youtube...
and then you go on to moan that the tracks suck, when you've never even listen to them in full 320kbps or probs even through decent speakers
maybe you should go one step further and actually get off youtube and go to an actual rave and experiance the atmosphere
thats a ridiculous comment...
did you not pick up on my point.
the point is, instead of illegally downloading whilst waiting for an album to arrive, use youtube to stream and preview the music instead. if your not possessing the illegal track its no problem. you're not illegally listening, they are illegally uploading.
you seem to be addressing everyone on here, so since that includes me, i'll defend myself against that comment. I go to a number of local raves, i buy the albums then i listen to them on a 400W system and enjoy them.
ok fair enough to you if thats true, but there is a majority of people on here that do.
most people, perhaps. most people simply dont understand how much damage it does, and understand how to fileshare...
some people who've been around the scene long enough understand how it can frustrate artists and damage the genre...
its normally the newbies that assume that one more person downloading one more album 'can't hurt'...
respect for reading :D
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Posted - 2009/08/17 : 17:36:28
My opinion is that when you buy a choon on vinyl. That is then yours to do what you like with, as long as it doesn't involve making money from copies of it.
If you have copied the vinyl to MP3 or CD, as long as you keep it for yourself, have made no copies to sell then i can't see a problem.
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