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acidfluxxbass
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 Posted - 2009/08/30 : 17:18:36
Hixxy had always been a big face in hardcore. From the development of the old happy hardcore genre to the crash. From the crash up to modern times.
DJ Hixxy, however, nowadays confuses me. He's strongly associated with AATW productions (Clubland X-treme, Htid, Bonkers 18), yet there's one thing I've noticed from his recent contributions...
Hixxy's not producing as much material. The material he does produce (and that was showcased on CXH5) is being used again in another aatw album 'HTID 2') Why is it Hixxy has to use songs which have already been on other albums on another similar project? He's clearly not producing as much as other producers and seems dead-set on boring listeners..
Another thing that bugs me is the amount of 'Classic Hardcore' mixes he does on modern commercial releases. For example, htid 1, all older tracks . bonkers 18, all older tracks, htid 2, many older tracks and '2009 remixes'...
The question i mean to ask, is why does Hixxy play older tracks, and use his own new ones multiple times? Can he not use other peoples stuff more, rathe than resorting to old raver baby releases?
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 19:13:23
Sounds like he just wants to promote himself and not seek out anyone new that mite replace him.
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 19:13:39
well 4 a start the 3rd cd of HTID 2 which includes songs of his from his cd on CXH 5 are full, unmixed tracks and dj friendly so hes not really recycling his tunes hes pretty much giving them away on this cd rather than waiting 40 years for them to come out on vinyl/mp3 on the raverbaby label
secondly hixxy stated in an interview that he was asked by AATW to do a classics mix 2000 onwards for Bonkers 18 probably to entice new listeners to bonkers as AATW tried to sell the album to people who maybe hadnt heard much hardcore or the bonkers compilation, i would have thought.
the first htid album was probably like the 'relaunched' bonkers album where they tried to entice people who dont normally listen to hardcore to buy the album with a classics set!
i may be totally wrong with whatever i said its just my thoughts on the matter :)
but one point u are deffo right on is that there have been way too many classics mixes and hopefully Hixxys bonkers 18 mix will be the last classics cd we hear for a while!
just like there are too many remixes in hardcore nowadays and not enough original material :(
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 19:27:00
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Originally posted by Warp-9:
well 4 a start the 3rd cd of HTID 2 which includes songs of his from his cd on CXH 5 are full, unmixed tracks and dj friendly so hes not really recycling his tunes hes pretty much giving them away on this cd rather than waiting 40 years for them to come out on vinyl/mp3 on the raverbaby label
Exactly, you have it right!
Hixxy produces a LOT more than most producers out there at the moment. I wonder where you get the impression that he doesnt, acidfluxxbass? Do you ever listen to his cd on every year's Clubland X-treme Hardcore? Most of the tracks are his, and that is already a lot more than most producers! There is also the odd Hixxy song/remix on other albums throughout the year adding up to his contribution.
And as Warp-9 said, he has most certainly been asked to mix those oldschool cds in recent years... After all, he is pretty much the Grandpa of Hardcore, so who else than him is more qualified to showcase the classics?
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:Can he not use other peoples stuff more, rathe than resorting to old raver baby releases?
His dj-friendly cd on the last HTID features a LOT of contributions from other players of the Hardcore scene, even outside of the Raver Baby camp! Hixxy is an example of success in the Hardcore scene, but that doesn't mean he should be responsible for everybody else's future in the scene. He is doing his thing, as everybody else is. People should take example on him (not necessarily music wise, but carreer wise), not expect him to give them part of his success.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 19:38:55
he used to be a musician, now he's a business man.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 19:42:46
/ignore :P
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 20:10:16
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
he used to be a musician, now he's a business man.
Well said.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 20:30:39
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he used to be a musician, now he's a business man.
that's how it feels like, considering he think he'd loose more money on digital sales, rather than having more people be able to buy his music
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 20:40:13
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
he used to be a musician, now he's a business man.
Well said.
Actually, you're right..
AATW says, Hixxy does... that's how it seems... That old skool mix directed quite a bit of critisism toward him and his choice of music..
He's going by the contract, and as long as he does that, he earns his money...
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 20:50:37
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well 4 a start the 3rd cd of HTID 2 which includes songs of his from his cd on CXH 5 are full, unmixed tracks and dj friendly so hes not really recycling his tunes hes pretty much giving them away on this cd rather than waiting 40 years for them to come out on vinyl/mp3 on the raverbaby label
Firstly, re: his cxh5 tunes on htid, how do we know they are unmixed (out of curiosity)? also, whether they are dj friendly or not, It still uses disk space. i dont want to pay for stuff ive already heard, and im sure other people will agree...
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secondly hixxy stated in an interview that he was asked by AATW to do a classics mix 2000 onwards for Bonkers 18 probably to entice new listeners to bonkers as AATW tried to sell the album to people who maybe hadnt heard much hardcore or the bonkers compilation, i would have thought.
yes, but at the end of the day, hes playing old music that i and other people have heard... and it just shows how its aatw dictating what goes on... ive ranted enough about this tbh..
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the first htid album was probably like the 'relaunched' bonkers album where they tried to entice people who dont normally listen to hardcore to buy the album with a classics set!
My opinion remains that i wouldn't want that. if they wanted to showoff older music, why not just re-release them digitally (fromt heir own respective artists) or something??
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but one point u are deffo right on is that there have been way too many classics mixes and hopefully Hixxys bonkers 18 mix will be the last classics cd we hear for a while!
just like there are too many remixes in hardcore nowadays and not enough original material :(
yeah, hopefully he'll use other peoples stuff aswell.. i think its fair to say his better days finished a few years ago... AATW have wasted a big, big big name... I remember he had countless tunes being churned out on bonkers and etc and some classic stuff on raverbaby... new names have simly shunted him out of the way since he's done the classics, and rechurned new tunes (like more and more(EVEN MORE!))
lol, never mind.... i do wonder what he'll do next... surely he knows his names being lost amongst an army of younger hardcore artists... similarly with sy, unknown, and perhaps even sharkey..
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 20:51:46
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that's how it feels like, considering he think he'd loose more money on digital sales, rather than having more people be able to buy his music
this is off track a little - but ive noticed ..you do seem really really REALLY bothered that hixxy isnt selling mp3s hehe
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 21:04:26
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Originally posted by Samination:
that's how it feels like, considering he think he'd loose more money on digital sales, rather than having more people be able to buy his music
this is off track a little - but ive noticed ..you do seem really really REALLY bothered that hixxy isnt selling mp3s hehe
are you joking? :D
I was high when Brisk finally got the NG/BB mp3 store up.
If Hixxy finally gets something done, see the possabilities!
Raver Baby, B(onkers) Trax, Cover Up, Legendary Music, Essential Platinum, New Essential Platinum and unreleased mayhem!
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 21:50:39
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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Originally posted by Mortis:
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
he used to be a musician, now he's a business man.
Well said.
Actually, you're right..
AATW says, Hixxy does... that's how it seems... That old skool mix directed quite a bit of critisism toward him and his choice of music..
He's going by the contract, and as long as he does that, he earns his money...
hixxy is well passed it and need to concentrate on his events rather than than the music, leave it to the new breed
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 22:32:07
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Firstly, re: his cxh5 tunes on htid, how do we know they are unmixed (out of curiosity)?
Have you seen the cover art? Go look at the back of the cover, it says it in big shiny letters :) You can see it on juno if I remember well.
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also, whether they are dj friendly or not, It still uses disk space. i dont want to pay for stuff ive already heard, and im sure other people will agree...
NO DJ in his right mind would agree to what you are saying here. The majority of the tracks I buy on records have been featured on albums, that's how it works. I buy them BECAUSE i've heard them before, they are good tracks and I want to showcase them. What you are saying makes NO sense, there is a HUGE difference between a mixed version and an extended version, especially in the eye/ear of a dj.
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 22:40:44
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Firstly, re: his cxh5 tunes on htid, how do we know they are unmixed (out of curiosity)?
Have you seen the cover art? Go look at the back of the cover, it says it in big shiny letters :) You can see it on juno if I remember well.
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
also, whether they are dj friendly or not, It still uses disk space. i dont want to pay for stuff ive already heard, and im sure other people will agree...
NO DJ in his right mind would agree to what you are saying here. The majority of the tracks I buy on records have been featured on albums, that's how it works. I buy them BECAUSE i've heard them before, they are good tracks and I want to showcase them. What you are saying makes NO sense, there is a HUGE difference between a mixed version and an extended version, especially in the eye/ear of a dj.
i agree with ur second part, who buys tunes they've never heard before?
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Posted - 2009/08/30 : 22:44:03
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
Firstly, re: his cxh5 tunes on htid, how do we know they are unmixed (out of curiosity)?
Have you seen the cover art? Go look at the back of the cover, it says it in big shiny letters :) You can see it on juno if I remember well.
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
also, whether they are dj friendly or not, It still uses disk space. i dont want to pay for stuff ive already heard, and im sure other people will agree...
NO DJ in his right mind would agree to what you are saying here. The majority of the tracks I buy on records have been featured on albums, that's how it works. I buy them BECAUSE i've heard them before, they are good tracks and I want to showcase them. What you are saying makes NO sense, there is a HUGE difference between a mixed version and an extended version, especially in the eye/ear of a dj.
1. i look at the bloody cover art, not analyse... i cant pluck bits of memory from my brain like that xD
2. I'm not talking above bloody DJ's, mate.. When the hell did i mention DJ's?? Of course a DJ would like full tracks, he's a bloody DJ.... I'm talking about people in general...
Average Joe buys CXH5, thinks it's okay... about 10 months later he gets htid 2, listens to disk 3 and wonders wtf tracks he as on a previous album on there. average people wont want longer tracks.. that's because not everyone's a Dj..
its like you listen to a track on youtube, and you think its OKAY... then you see a link to the extended video (a longer version)... would u click on it (if you weren't a dj?)
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