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Revs
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 Posted - 2009/09/03 : 12:25:55
As you may have noticed, Hardcore tracks in the past years have changed quite a lot and are now going more in the direction of.. electro house.
I do like those tracks, I mean, I like that style, however I know many don't.
I started listening to Hardcore because I thought it was an emotional genre of music. And now I know that I'm wrong.
I think we need more tracks with piano riffs, PROPER synths, better lyrics, and a proper melody again.
To compare today's tracks with yesterday's tracks, I have a good example. Take the original "About U" from Ham & DNA. Listen to the track.. listen to the piano, how clear and how loud it is. So uplifting. Now listen to the piano in the new remix. It's pure shit, you don't even here it. Listen to the synths in the original track. AWESOME. Listen to the ones in the 2008 Remix. Crap !
I think some things have to be changed! I feel like there are less and less tracks with female vocals, you know, real Happy Hardcore tracks, not bouncy stuff or something. But the tracks HHC is known for.
Sometimes I was wondering : Is Hardcore too fast to be emotional ? It's so fast that there's no time/place to make it sound atmospheric, or really very beautiful. It's much easier in slower tracks.
Well I don't know, what do you think ?
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 12:38:08
Since when has hardcore go in the direction of "electro house"? A few tracks here and there but nothin scene changin
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 12:43:37
It's gone darker and weirder.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 13:50:10
only over the past year - the electro sounds have been infecting hardcore for longer than that i think.
people are obviously running out of ideas, not spending time on the tracks and just churning them out as fast as they can to get as quick a return they can...
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Himself
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 15:45:46
The electro sound has infected a good region of the music industry, not just hardcore. And i dont think its just hardcore producers that are running out of ideas. If you check out some of the stuff being played on music channels you'll notice that there seems to be a lack of originality. Artists are copying other artists or sampling stuff that has already been done before. We see R&B, Hip-Hop artists collaborating with Dance producers and there seems to be a common sound running through most of the stuff.
If you ask me, the whole music industry has gone into meltdown
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 15:57:11
Yea I agree. So what can be done now ?
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 16:20:46
we wait...in silence...then we STRIKE!!!! MUAHAHA
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 17:04:53
First collect all the music you like, then bury it!
BURY IT!
Then no one can get it!
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 23:08:46
quote:
Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
First collect all the music you like, then bury it!
BURY IT!
Then no one can get it!
I went one better and put it in a time capsule.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/09/03 : 23:11:26
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by TheOneNOnly:
First collect all the music you like, then bury it!
BURY IT!
Then no one can get it!
I went one better and put it in a time capsule.
infinite loop!
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 00:27:10
I think Hardcore is just too fast to be emotional, it HAS to be dark.. I'm listening to Handsup and I notice how much more emotions you can put in a track, it's slower but you got more place and stuff.
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MAtRiCks
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 00:35:49
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
I think Hardcore is just too fast to be emotional, it HAS to be dark..
I could not disagree more! Happy Hardcore doesn't have to be dark, that statement contradict's itself.
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choonland
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 04:42:29
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Sometimes I was wondering : Is Hardcore too fast to be emotional ? It's so fast that there's no time/place to make it sound atmospheric, or really very beautiful. It's much easier in slower tracks.
it can be emotional, in the breakdowns the speed perceived can be half of the actual BPM of the track, so there's a lot of room to make it sound atmosferic and beautiful, as many hardcore tracks do
I think the emotial thing, is not so much about the bpm, but about the beautiness of the melody itself.
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frozt
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 06:41:36
I feel like most of my tracks are turning into HHC tracks because a lot of them are getting a bouncier and bouncier feel.
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Samination
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 09:34:19
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Originally posted by Naturatech:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Sometimes I was wondering : Is Hardcore too fast to be emotional ? It's so fast that there's no time/place to make it sound atmospheric, or really very beautiful. It's much easier in slower tracks.
it can be emotional, in the breakdowns the speed perceived can be half of the actual BPM of the track, so there's a lot of room to make it sound atmosferic and beautiful, as many hardcore tracks do
I think the emotial thing, is not so much about the bpm, but about the beautiness of the melody itself.
Yea, even songs with dark atmosphere can have an emotional touch to id, like Sharkey's Distant Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6zdwM0PuZ0
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Revs
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Posted - 2009/09/04 : 13:03:46
Yeah or like every of V.A.G.A.B.O.N.D.'s tracks ( till 2007 ). He always has some sick melodies :)
Yea it's maybe not the BPM, but I think it needs more.. instruments, samples, background-sounds, etc etc. ( in the breakdown ). They could make it even better, I'm sure they can!
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